Hendrix: Dagger Vinyl and Royal Albert Hall cd/dvd announcement

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by SoundAdvice, Mar 11, 2010.

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  1. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

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    I hope the Clark University release identifies the city as "Worcester" (pronounced WOOSTER), not "Worchester" as it says in the press release.
     
  2. PhilCohen

    PhilCohen Forum Resident

    Let's see:if Janie Hendrix were to release the Royal Albert Hall CD & DVD product before she gets her cash settlement from The Times, and the RAH discs were to sell less than expected, it could detrimentally affect a judge's view of the Royal Albert Hall recordings' monetary value and cause Experience Hendrix's financial settlement(from The Times) to be reduced.

    Janie Hendrix is still an appallingly greedy individual who believes(or has been led to believe by her attorneys) that lawsuits will be a bigger money-maker for Experience Hendrix than releasing Jimi Hendrix music. This view, whether it comes from Janie Hendrix or her attorneys, is a viewpoint that has been proven wrong....again and again and again. All the lawsuits against Ed Chalpin over the "Mike Jeffrey Estate" unauthorised CD's didn't earn as much as one penny for Janie & her company, since Chalpin has defied every judge(in the UK or U.S.A.) that has ordered him to pay financial damages or attorney costs to Experience Hendrix. The lawsuits may have made a theoretical point about the exclusivity of Experience Hendrix's copyrights, but the lawsuits didn't achieve anything. Chalpin's licensees keep gleefully cranking out unauthorised CD's, and all Janie Hendrix did was spend loads of money on attorney fees; a decision that has yet to see any monetary return.
     
  3. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Does 106 minutes even cover the full 2/24 performance?

    What about Blu/vinyl?
     
  4. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Obviously he is referring to Miami still be a ways away. Does this mean the "Anthology" and "Movie" are on the backburner?
     
  5. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Wasn't Janie suring the same person she was trying to license RAH? Or is the suit only against The Times?
     
  6. Doctor Flang

    Doctor Flang Forum Resident

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    Or was every song even filmed?
     
  7. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Did the filmakers shoot 16x9 or 4x3? Will Janie chop the picture like "Film About.." DVD?
     
  8. Doctor Flang

    Doctor Flang Forum Resident

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    I didn't know Janie was responsible for that one.
     
  9. PhilCohen

    PhilCohen Forum Resident

    I know that Chris M won't like this prediction, but with the mixed reception greeting "Valleys of Neptune"(though I like most of it), and Janie Hendrix's continuing obsession with fruitless lawsuits, it wouldn't surprise me if Janie Hendrix(again!) suddenly chokes off the flow of previously unreleased material(perhaps excepting "Dagger" label mail-order "official bootleg" releases), and attempts to coast through the years of the Sony contract, releasing nothing but verbatim, non-remastered re-packages of the MCA discs. Let's hope that the Sony contract requires Ms. Hendrix to deliver a specified quantity of unreleased material. I'm assuming that the Sony executives and attorneys aren't dummies.
     
  10. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    All aboard the baseless speculation express.
     
  11. Doctor Flang

    Doctor Flang Forum Resident

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    Chris, do you any idea was every song Experience performed that second night captured on film, Stone Free for example?
     
  12. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    You know as much as I do. It would be a real shame if Stone Free wasn't captured.
     
  13. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    The boot DVD is missing half of the concert including the 3 best performances of the show. It's also half a dozen generations removed from the source.
     
  14. Doctor Flang

    Doctor Flang Forum Resident

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    And there is no doubt in my mind that Eddie Kramer's new mix will be superior to any of the previous versions (including his own)!
     
  15. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    There are many video boots of this show. And I am sure I have Voodoo Child (his finest live performance of this tune) on one of them.
     
  16. Lord Summerisle

    Lord Summerisle Forum Resident

    I don't think Sony would be stupid enough.
     
  17. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member Thread Starter

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    40 years ago the Beach Boys signed a deal promising "SMiLE". The new VON album counts as unreleased JIMI, even though the non-frankenstein versions can be released a decade from now and count as unreleased material for another label/distributor.
     
  18. PhilCohen

    PhilCohen Forum Resident

    But the unofficial CD releases of the Feb.24,1969 show sound fine, and the darker,less tweaked sound is truer to how the recordings would have sounded if they had been released in the 1960's or 1970's. What we may get from Sony will be brighter, compressed & processed. Granted, the Feb.18, 1969 only circulates as a poor quality audience recording, so an official release of that show would be welcome. But as for the audio for the Feb.24,1969, I'm satisfied with what I've got(a clone of an unofficial 4-CD set with both shows & the rehearsals).

    I remember when one of the major music magazines reviewed the album "The Cry of Love" on its' release. The reviewer said that he heard that there might be enough music in the vaults for a few more albums, but given Hendrix's reputation as a perfectionist, that the reviewer would consider this album("The Cry of Love") enough to let go.

    Maybe now IS the time to consider this new album("Valleys of Neptune") as enough to let go, at least for mainstream official releases(as opposed to mail-order specialist or "official bootleg" releases). Janie Hendrix is fairly young, certainly younger than the original 1960's Jimi Hendrix fans. She'll certainly outlive the bulk of the original fans, and she can(if she wishes) hold out with the Albert Hall CD & DVD releases until the CD & DVD formats(and we original fans) are all dead & gone. And she seems oblivious to public opinion.

    I've got loads of Hendrix recordings(well over 100 CD's), and if I want more, I can certainly find it through unofficial releases & downloads, largely undoctored.

    Yes, I've criticised Alan Douglas(as have many of you)and he deserved that criticism, but say what you will about Douglas(and even he made comments to the effect that he regretted the "Midnight Lightning" album), at least he kept a steady flow of new releases coming to the fans.

    Chris M has humorously made comments to the effect that Janie Hendrix is playing games with me. As for the Royal Albert Hall CD & DVD, she's actually playing games with all Jimi Hendrix music collectors.
     
  19. howlinrock

    howlinrock Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    You think? Well spoken Phil as she know's what she is holding to, just for the marketing strength. I don't believe that with the remaining video/film footage unused there is much you can do. Maybe another documentary with using some of the same stuff over and over.
     
  20. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Miami is still waiting in the wings.
    Lots of early TV stuff needs to be available in perfect quality.
    release all interview footage
     
  21. pinkrudy

    pinkrudy Senior Member

    im hoping for blu-ray :)

    wheres the blu of IOW already :realmad:
     
  22. hoggydoggy

    hoggydoggy Forum Resident

    Having listened to volume-matched versions of the Charley "Last Experience" set and the RAH tracks on the purple box, these sound like exactly the same mixes to me - there may be some differences in source quality (the Charley are perhaps slightly noisier, though I'm struggling to hear much), but I'm convinced the Charley set is derived from what sound like vintage multi-track mixes of 2/24/69.

    Which fact surprises me, as I'd always assumed that any of the "grey market" releases derived from non-multi sources - eg. I'd wrongly thought that maybe a two-track stereo recording was made for the film crew (which would have explained how it came to be sold without the Estate's consent).

    It does leave you to wonder how a full set of mixdown tapes like this got out in the first place - another murky Hendrix mystery!

    I hope not - a new stereo mix wouldn't hurt necessarily (Mitch's drums would sound great with a bit more of a spread about them), but I like the sound of the tracks as they stand too.
     
  23. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kind of fellow. Stax Sigma

    IIRC, the Albert Hall concerts were recorded on 4 tracks, so Mitch's drums may not be able to be spread out.
     
  24. Chris M

    Chris M Senior Member In Memoriam

    RAH is at least an 8 track recording.
     
  25. Doctor Flang

    Doctor Flang Forum Resident

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    In the Electric Gypsy book was a mistake that it was a 4-track recording. I remember being a surprised because all the other shows were 8-track recordings.
     
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