Here's a chance to help a Hall of Fame voter

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by tim_neely, Sep 12, 2002.

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  1. Jimbo

    Jimbo Forum Hall Of Fame

    Location:
    Zero/Zero Island
    My ballot:

    ABBA
    Patti Smith
    Kraftwerk
    Black Sabbath
    Clash
    Elvis C.
    Police
    Sex Pistols

    I like the fact that the Hall has a very broad definition of rock & roll.
     
  2. Cousin It

    Cousin It Senior Member

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    ABBA
    Black Sabbath
    MC5
     
  3. Dugan

    Dugan Senior Member

    Location:
    Midway,Pa
    Here's my choices:

    AC/DC (Since Sabbath doesn't want it)
    Elvis Costello & the Attractions
    Chic (if your gonna have Disco it might as well be good Disco)
    MC5 (kick out the Jams!)
    The Police
    The Righteous Brothers
    Sex Pistols or the Clash (flip a coin)
    The Patti Smith Group
     
  4. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    You people have good tastes.
     
  5. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Yes, he means the group CHIC! You know, "Good Times", "Le Freak", "Want Your Love", "We Are Family", "Upside Down", Like A Virgin"...Bernard Edward's thumping, expertly played, innovative bass playing...

    MY choices include:

    ABBA
    Chic
    The Clash
    The Police

    Also, I notice most folks on this thread voted for their favorite musc.
     
  6. lbangs

    lbangs Senior Member

    My vote would be (with highest ranked first)...:

    Elvis Costello & the Attractions
    The Clash
    Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Sex Pistols
    Black Sabbath
    The Patti Smith Group
    AC/DC
    The Police

    Shalom, y'all!

    L. Bangs
     
  7. grbl

    grbl Just Lurking

    Location:
    Long Island
    All in all, not a great list of choices. Here's my take:

    Abba - No (To me this is saccharine pop drivel, not rock)
    AC/DC - No
    Black Sabbath - Yes
    Chic - No (Disco, not rock)
    The Clash - Yes, definitely
    Elvis Costello & the Attractions - Yes, definitely
    The Dells - No
    Kraftwerk - No
    Lynyrd Skynyrd - Yes, though not a resounding yes
    MC5 - No (not enough of a body of work)
    The Police - Yes, but not enthusiastically
    The Righteous Brothers - Maybe
    Sex Pistols - No (see MC5)
    The Patti Smith Group - No (see MC5)
    Steve Winwood - No (though Traffic should be in)
     
  8. rudy

    rudy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Oakland
    My vote goes to:

    Elvis Costello & the Attractions
    The Righteous Brothers
    The Patti Smith Group
    Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Sex Pistols
     
  9. chrischross

    chrischross New Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    I'd go in this order:

    Obvious choices:

    1. Police
    2. The Clash
    3. Elvis Costello & The Attractions (those first three albums just rule)
    4. Black Sabbath

    Solid nominees:
    5. AC/DC
    6. Lynyrd Skynyrd

    On the bubble:
    7. Patti Smith Group
    8. Steve Winwood (not necessarily for solo work, but for Spencer Davis Group, Blind Faith, Traffic)

    I think Chic is great, but there just isn't enough work there. Same goes for the Sex Pistols. Kraftwerk is amazingly influential, but if influence is the criteria, than The Stooges would have been in ages ago.
     
  10. I agree. :righton:
    Agreed. As some others have mentioned maybe Abba could be in the Pop Music Hall of Fame.
    :righton: Maybe there could some sort of special entry for Steve Winwood but based on his combined work with Spencer Davis Group, Traffic, Go, and Blind Faith. Folks, While You See A Chance is about as rock and roll as Bruce Johnson on the Beach Boys - Sunflower album. When you hear Johnson's songs, you realise he doesn't have a rock and roll bone in his body.

    My preference in order:
    1. Elvis Costello and The Attractions (A no brainer! Disappointing to see a few voting no on this one.)
    2. Sex Pistols (They shook up the music industry. I may have mentioned this in another thread but if it wasn't for punk rock/new wave, we'd be listening to Have A Nice Day - Volume 145 now. :rolleyes: )
    3. The Clash
    4. The Police
    5. Patti Smith Group
    6. MC5 (small discography but major influences on many alt.rock bands of the 80s and 90s.
    7. Kraftwerk (godfathers of the whole synth/techno genre of music)
    8. AC/DC (Is this entry for the Bon Scott lineup? I would chose AC/DC based on the Bon Scott years, and to respect Ozzy's request.)
     
  11. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    The reluctance or refusal of many to pick ABBA or Chic reinforces that the majority of the active members are more familiar with and listen more to hard rock.
     
  12. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden MichiGort Staff

    Location:
    Livonia, MI
    I like Abba and Chic, but did not pick them simply becasue I felt they were less deserving of enshrinement than others. I won't be upset if they get in, but my vote would go elsewhere. I could definitely see Nile Rodgers and/or Bernard Edwards getting in as producer/sidemen, though.

    Regards,
     
  13. Matt

    Matt New Member

    Location:
    Illinois
    I also like the broad definition of rock the Hall of Fame has. Rock has never been an easy definition for me, anyway. It always seemed like the offspring of so many popular music forms that has continued to mutate and give birth to other ideas and sounds. Chic and Kraftwerk may not fall in an easy rock definition the way, say, Lynyrd Skynyrd or Tom Petty does, both great bands that are more traditional in their music, but think of the cross-pollination that's gone on between electronic music, disco, and rock. Bowie's collaborations with Eno, "Miss You" by the Stones, etc.

    Anyway, I think disco does have a place in the rock and roll hall of fame, as long as it's really good disco. Even if there was a separate institution of equal stature dedicated to disco (which is very unlikely to ever happen), I'd still put a vote in for Chic. Just too damn good, in my book.

    Still waiting for the Stooges and the Dolls to get that call (and the Mekons, and Roxy Music...)
     
  14. Gardo

    Gardo Audio Epistemologist

    Location:
    Virginia
    My picks from the list, in order and with brief commentary:

    Steve Winwood--a great soul singer. I don't care much for his 80's pop stuff, but his singing was always a marvel. Pretty dab hand at the B3, too.
    The Police--an astonishing band, truly greater than the sum of its parts, and one whose legacy can be heard, loud and clear, today.
    Elvis Costello & the Attractions--I'm hard to please with singer-songwriters, but Elvis gets through to me on that level AND as the frontman for a superb band. Like Winwood, Costello is a musician's musician.
    Black Sabbath--I don't know why Ozzy doesn't want to be on the ballot, but they certainly deserve this honor.
    The Clash--brief but intense career that made a permanent difference in the musical conversation that followed.
    Chic--Bernard Edwards and Nile Rodgers made catchy disco music, but they did it in a very interesting, even avant-garde manner in many cases, and pushed the envelope in a way that leads directly to Prince and to a lot of the more experimental dance stuff today.
    Lynyrd Skynyrd--When I listen to their music, they're always more interesting and provocative than I remember. Tough guys with a real sense of irony, a great sense of humor, and reach-for-the-stars guitar fireworks.
    The Righteous Brothers--When you say "blue-eyed soul" you have to have them in mind. They didn't do all that much to change the world, other than "Unchained Melody" and "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'," but in the latter case, especially, they're a textbook example of rock-and-roll sublimity. And how many of those do you need to be immortal?

    The rest are either deserving but not as deserving, or I'd like to give them a little longer on the "test of time" exam.

    Gardo
     
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