Herman's Hermits "I'm Henry The VIII, I Am" on Ed Sullivan. Pretty silly!

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  1. Steve Hoffman

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    I used to love the Hermits cover of this song when I was a kid. We used to sing along in summer camp every time it came on the radio. This has to be the Ed Sullivan Show, right? Do they look self conscious enough? Only in the USA could this have been a hit! It wasn't even on a single in the UK but it went to #1 here..


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1F5GdER2wM


    I'd love to go back in time to the British Invasion era. My favorite era for pop music.
     
  2. Pennywise

    Pennywise Forum Resident

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    Does this mean you won't be doing any Herman's Hermits remasters? :)
     
  3. Steve Hoffman

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    I love those guy and would jump at the chance. Never happen though..
     
  4. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

  5. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    Not one of the British Invasion's better contributions.
     
  6. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Senior Member

    Apparently, as long as it was British, we Americans went wild for it!
    Funny thing for me is that I used to sing this song in my first professional band, then 23 years later, played it with Peter Noone on stage in '06!
    Gotta love the Gibson Firebird bass, though!
     
  7. Steve Hoffman

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    Of course if you ever saw Freddie & The Dreamers on Ed Sullivan they make this look like fine art.
     
  8. Larry Mc

    Larry Mc Forum Dude

    Not to mention the dance he did called "The Freddie"....:laugh:
     
  9. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Senior Member

    Were the Hermits and Freddie as popular in England as they were here?
     
  10. docwebb

    docwebb Forum Resident

    Peter liked to mug and flash that cute smile for the girls. Personally I prefer rock with a little more danger.... Mick Jaggar and Eric Burdon's performances on Sullivan used to captivate me.....I left Herman's Herman's antics for my kid sister to watch.
    But I will admit their music is a guilty pleasure and has it's place in my listening.
     
  11. indy mike

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  12. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Senior Member

    That was really odd. Girls were still more or less screaming to them though! I'll bet that the girls hadn't seen them in action before this telecast, and weren't quite sure how to react!
     
  13. jgreen

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    Ah! The days when bands wore dark suits! It IS show business after all. Good lead from Lek! Nice tone.
     
  14. -Alan

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    Here are the Herman's Hermits' singles that reached the Top 20 on the UK single charts:

    1. I'm Into Something Good (#1 in 1964)
    2. Show Me Girl (#19 in 1964)
    3. Silhouettes (#3 in 1965)
    4. Wonderful World (#7 in 1965)
    5. Just a Little Bit Better (#15 in 1965)
    6. A Must to Avoid (#6 in 1966)
    7. You Won't Be Leavin' (#20 in 1966)
    8. This Door Swings Both Ways (#18 in 1966)
    9. No Milk Today (#7 in 1966)
    10. There's a Kind of Hush (#7 in 1967)
    11. I Can Take or Leave Your Loving (#11 in 1968)
    12. Sleepy Joe (#12 in 1968)
    13. Sunshine Girl (#8 in 1968)
    14. Something's Happening (#6 in 1969)
    15. My Sentimental Friend (#2 in 1969)
    16. Years May Come and Years May Go (#7 in 1970)

    http://www.chartstats.com/artistinfo.php?id=1723

    Pictured below is the US comparison.

    http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=HERMAN\\'S|HERMITS&sql=11:kifuxqe5ld0e~T51
     

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  15. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Senior Member

    Great! Thanks for the chart info. Looks like they were equally popular in both countries.
     
  16. dewey02

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    I always felt that Peter Noone played up his being English. With the Beatles and other bands, it was very difficult to hear any English accent when they sang...they were just belting it out. With Herman's Hermits, I believe they overstressed the accent so Americans, especially American teenybopper girls (8-14 yrs old) would KNOW they were English. And Peter would always do those cute mugs shots, looking directly into the camera. If the Stones cast themselves as the "bad boys" as compared to the Beatles, then Herman's Hermits cast themselves as the angelic ones. What mother could complain about them?

    As an aside, while I thought their early stuff was pretty tame and lame and not very good musically, I thought they actually did improve, with East/West, No Milk Today, and This Door Swings Both Ways, being very good songs indeed.
     
  17. MikeM

    MikeM Senior Member

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    Different music for different purposes. I certainly agree about the greatness of The Animals and The Stones, but liking them doesn't mean I can't also like some lighter fare from time to time.

    Most of HH's hits were well-crafted, well-sung, well-played pop songs. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. They sounded good coming out of a transistor radio in 1965.

    In addition, this excerpt from a post in another thread should be taken into account by all those ready to dismiss Herman's Hermits with a condescending wave of the hand.

    This comes from this thread, which concerns a DVD release of performance footage of several British Invasion artists.

    The compiler notes:

     
  18. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    I love Herman's Hermits stuff for what it is. We all should enjoy some lighter and heavier fare.
     
  19. mkolesa

    mkolesa Forum Resident

    personally i've always thought the 'second verse, same as the first' was the funniest bit. talk about stretching nothing into something! but you have to admire them doing such a piece of fluff live on network tv. and hey, how many times have you seen a thunderbird bass played upside-down ala hendrix???
     
  20. GV1967

    GV1967 Senior Member

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    It really is a shame that "My Sentimental Friend" bombed in the USA. Excellent track.
     
  21. jgreen

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    And the third verse, after a great lead by Derek Lekenby,'the British James Burton', was also the same as the first (and second). A single verse, no chorus, no bridge song.
     
  22. conniefrancis

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    Don't you think if this had been the B-side to Leaning on a Lamp, it would have been an even greater 45....when I was 12...
     
  23. RockWizard

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    After reading these posts, something hasn't been mentioned. He was a TEENAGER when this was done(15 or 16). Forty-five years later, he is still very entertaining and puts on a great show. After the show, always stays behind to sign ANYTHING and take pictures with the fans. Wish more artists would be accessible like he is and appreciate the fans. No, not saying huge arena acts do this, but it is very refreshing. Watching the artists you grew up listening to and having a chance to meet them. And in Peter's case, he DOES remember you if you are a frequent atendee of his shows. I speak from experience.
     
  24. Steve Hoffman

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    Agreed. Peter is without a doubt the nicest rock & roll legend I've ever had the pleasure to know. A really nice guy.
     
  25. John54

    John54 Senior Member

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    This particular song, I agree, but most of their other hits were terrific!
     
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