Hi-Res Download News (HDTracks, ProStudioMasters, Pono, etc.) & Software/Mastering Part 12**

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Gary, May 9, 2015.

  1. art

    art Forum Resident

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    I’d like to know too!
     
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  2. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    The remixes? I thought this was about the older, earlier albums, because, to my knowledge, they never appeared in Hi-Res until now. :confused:
     
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  3. jmacvols

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  4. oneway23

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  5. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    Oh, okay, we are talking about the same thing. I thought you were talking about the remixes Waits made with Brennan of the Blood Money-Real Gone albums that were already recently released.

    I was confused because some of the older albums from the 70s were superbly remastered by Chris Bellman on Rhino 180gr vinyl a few years ago.
     
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  6. Vorlon

    Vorlon Forum Resident

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    No, the Horses CD I refer to is from 1988. I was lucky (born in 1963) to grasp many of the first CD's. And thx for the tip about the rest. Dang was I lucky with Easter. :uhhuh:
     
  7. mindblanking

    mindblanking The Bourbon King

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    Anybody bite on Tom Waits yet? I plan to later this evening.
     
  8. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Resident

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    I picked up The Association Insight Out (Mono) and am generally pretty happy with it after one listen through. I don't really know this album other than hearing the hits on the radio. I will say this thing isn't really very warm or much of a thick mono recording; it also didn't seem like it was eq'd to be overly bright either. It seemed open enough sounding as well. I posted its numbers Album details - Dynamic Range Database So without really knowing this album I'd say that while it isn't overly bright it did have a nickel/tin kind of metallically quality to it. If I had to guess, and this is a very uneducated one at best, this seemed more like a flat transfer. I can't find much info on where it was recorded but it might have been different studios as well, as the tracks have some sonic variety to them; I also wouldn't be surprised if this was mixed on monitors that had a thick midrange as if this thing is flat it seems to have a hole in the midrange some. Finally Requiem For The Masses had more hiss on it than the other cuts, but that might be well known. So on the whole I think this works for me, but at the same time it is tough to flat out recommend it without knowing more about the album and other alternatives.
     
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  9. Centurion

    Centurion Well-Known Member

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    Found these not on the DR database but elsewhere:

    foobar2000 1.3.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-09 02:27:30
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / Closing Time (Remastered)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR9 -0.11 dB -11.26 dB 3:56 01-Ol'
    DR11 -0.13 dB -12.94 dB 3:54 02-I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You
    DR9 -0.09 dB -11.23 dB 3:09 03-Virginia Avenue
    DR9 -0.10 dB -11.06 dB 3:40 04-Old Shoes (& Picture Postcards)
    DR10 -0.12 dB -11.99 dB 3:26 05-Midnight Lullaby
    DR10 -0.10 dB -11.70 dB 4:29 06-Martha
    DR10 -0.11 dB -13.31 dB 4:02 07-Rosie
    DR12 -0.17 dB -15.99 dB 3:12 08-Lonely
    DR10 -0.10 dB -12.26 dB 3:05 09-Ice Cream Man
    DR10 -0.10 dB -12.30 dB 3:40 10-Little Trip To Heaven (On The Wings Of Your Love)
    DR10 -0.09 dB -11.19 dB 4:45 11-Grapefruit Moon
    DR12 -0.12 dB -15.34 dB 4:20 12-Closing Time
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    Number of tracks: 12
    Official DR value: DR10
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2321 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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    foobar2000 1.1.10 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-09 11:11:47
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / The Heart Of Saturday Night (Remastered)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR8 -0.13 dB -10.66 dB 3:23 ?-New Coat Of Paint
    DR10 -0.16 dB -12.13 dB 3:30 ?-San Diego Serenade
    DR10 -0.13 dB -11.71 dB 3:29 ?-Semi Suite
    DR9 -0.13 dB -11.63 dB 4:27 ?-Shiver Me Timbers
    DR10 -0.13 dB -11.44 dB 3:12 ?-Diamonds On My Windshield
    DR10 -0.21 dB -11.48 dB 3:53 ?-(Looking For) The Heart Of Saturday Night
    DR8 -0.12 dB -10.27 dB 3:03 ?-Fumblin’ With The Blues
    DR9 -0.13 dB -10.70 dB 4:26 ?-Please Call Me, Baby
    DR9 -0.13 dB -11.32 dB 3:47 ?-Depot, Depot
    DR10 -0.14 dB -12.40 dB 5:07 ?-Drunk On The Moon
    DR12 -0.14 dB -15.06 dB 3:17 ?-The Ghosts Of Saturday Night (After Hours At Napoleone’s Pizza House)
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    Number of tracks: 11
    Official DR value: DR9
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2798 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
    ================================================================================

    foobar2000 1.1.10 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-09 16:15:46
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / Nighthawks At The Diner (Remastered) Live
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR9 -0.13 dB -12.16 dB 2:57 ?-Opening Intro (Live)
    DR11 -0.14 dB -14.06 dB 3:46 ?-Emotional Weather Report (Live)
    DR14 -0.26 dB -17.72 dB 2:16 ?-Intro To On A Foggy Night (Live)
    DR11 -0.14 dB -13.56 dB 3:48 ?-On A Foggy Night (Live)
    DR13 -0.18 dB -15.23 dB 1:52 ?-Intro To Eggs And Sausage (In A Cadillac With Susan Michelson) (Live)
    DR10 -0.12 dB -12.24 dB 4:18 ?-Eggs And Sausage (In A Cadillac With Susan Michelson) (Live)
    DR13 -0.14 dB -16.49 dB 3:02 ?-Intro To Better Off Without A Wife (Live)
    DR11 -0.13 dB -13.69 dB 3:58 ?-Better Off Without A Wife (Live)
    DR10 -0.13 dB -13.61 dB 11:28 ?-Nighthawk Postcards (From Easy Street) (Live)
    DR13 -0.36 dB -17.26 dB 0:56 ?-Intro To Warm Beer And Cold Women (Live)
    DR10 -0.13 dB -12.64 dB 5:20 ?-Warm Beer And Cold Women (Live)
    DR13 -0.50 dB -18.18 dB 0:47 ?-Intro To Putnam County (Live)
    DR11 -0.13 dB -13.78 dB 7:33 ?-Putnam County (Live)
    DR11 -0.13 dB -13.09 dB 6:25 ?-Spare Parts I (A Nocturnal Emission) (Live)
    DR11 -0.13 dB -14.53 dB 2:50 ?-Nobody (Live)
    DR13 -0.45 dB -18.99 dB 0:41 ?-Intro To Big Joe And Phantom 309 (Live)
    DR12 -0.13 dB -14.65 dB 6:27 ?-Big Joe And Phantom 309 (Live)
    DR9 -0.13 dB -12.85 dB 5:16 ?-Spare Parts II And Closing (Live)
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    Number of tracks: 18
    Official DR value: DR11
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2790 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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    foobar2000 1.1.10 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-09 13:37:36
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / Small Change (Remastered)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR12 -0.63 dB -14.71 dB 6:39 ?-Tom Traubert’s Blues (Four Sheets To The Wind In Copenhagen)
    DR12 -0.10 dB -13.57 dB 5:43 ?-Step Right Up
    DR12 -2.59 dB -17.30 dB 3:44 ?-Jitterbug Boy (Sharing A Curbstone With Chuck E. Weiss, Robert Marchese, Paul Body and The Mug and Artie)
    DR12 -0.78 dB -15.67 dB 4:53 ?-I Wish I Was In New Orleans (In The Ninth Ward)
    DR12 -2.44 dB -18.04 dB 3:40 ?-The Piano Has Been Drinking (Not Me) (An Evening With Pete King)
    DR11 -1.89 dB -15.61 dB 5:25 ?-Invitation To The Blues
    DR13 -0.08 dB -14.42 dB 2:32 ?-String (At The Two O’Clock Club)
    DR11 -1.71 dB -16.24 dB 4:50 ?-Bad Liver And A Broken Heart (In Lowell)
    DR13 -0.80 dB -16.17 dB 4:08 ?-The One That Got Away
    DR15 -3.78 dB -22.72 dB 5:07 ?-Small Change (Got Rained On With His Own 38)
    DR13 -2.44 dB -18.63 dB 3:18 ?-I Can’t Wait To Get Off Work (And See My Baby On Montgomery Avenue)
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    Number of tracks: 11
    Official DR value: DR12
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2422 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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    foobar2000 1.1.10 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-09 12:45:47
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / Foreign Affairs (Remastered)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR10 -0.08 dB -13.94 dB 2:17 ?-Cinny’s Waltz
    DR12 -0.13 dB -15.30 dB 3:34 ?-Muriel
    DR11 -0.70 dB -14.63 dB 3:38 ?-I Never Talk To Strangers
    DR10 -0.06 dB -12.27 dB 5:01 ?-Medley Jack & Neal California, Here I Come04
    DR12 -0.12 dB -15.23 dB 4:40 ?-A Sight For Sore Eyes
    DR12 -0.08 dB -14.88 dB 8:40 ?-Potter’s Field
    DR12 -0.07 dB -15.81 dB 6:35 ?-Shave
    DR10 -0.07 dB -12.36 dB 3:55 ?-Barber Shop
    DR11 -0.18 dB -14.09 dB 3:46 ?-Foreign Affair
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    Number of tracks: 9
    Official DR value: DR11
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2326 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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    foobar2000 1.1.10 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-09 13:35:09
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / Blue Valentine (Remastered)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR13 -0.09 dB -16.12 dB 3:53 ?-Somewhere (From West Side Story)
    DR13 -0.06 dB -14.81 dB 3:15 ?-Red Shoes By The Drugstore
    DR14 -0.06 dB -18.15 dB 4:33 ?-Christmas Card From A Hooker In Minneapolis
    DR13 -0.06 dB -14.23 dB 4:52 ?-Romeo Is Bleeding
    DR12 -0.02 dB -14.89 dB 8:16 ?-$29.00
    DR12 -0.07 dB -14.07 dB 5:14 ?-Wrong Side Of The Road
    DR11 -0.05 dB -12.72 dB 3:18 ?-Whistlin' Past The Graveyard
    DR14 -0.09 dB -17.82 dB 4:49 ?-Kentucky Avenue
    DR12 -0.01 dB -13.82 dB 5:37 ?-A Sweet Little Bullet From A Pretty Blue Gun
    DR14 -0.10 dB -17.49 dB 5:50 ?-Blue Valentine
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    Number of tracks: 10
    Official DR value: DR13
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2280 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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    foobar2000 1.3.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2018-03-08 15:21:35
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    Analyzed: Tom Waits / Heartattack And Vine (Remastered)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR13 -0.10 dB -14.36 dB 4:50 01-Heartattack And Vine
    DR13 -0.10 dB -15.24 dB 4:25 02-In Shades
    DR11 -0.10 dB -14.17 dB 3:42 03-Saving All My Love For You
    DR11 -0.10 dB -12.26 dB 4:45 04-Downtown
    DR12 -0.10 dB -15.10 dB 5:12 05-Jersey Girl
    DR13 -0.10 dB -14.17 dB 4:26 06-‘Til The Money Runs Out
    DR10 -0.68 dB -14.63 dB 6:20 07-On The Nickel
    DR12 -0.10 dB -13.06 dB 5:15 08-Mr Siegal
    DR11 -1.37 dB -15.56 dB 5:35 09-Ruby’s Arms
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    Number of tracks: 9
    Official DR value: DR12
    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2545 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
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  10. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Forum Resident

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    May have to splurge on the first 4.
     
  11. agentalbert

    agentalbert Forum Resident

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    Just to make sure I'm correct, is this right?

    Remastered in 2017 by Waits/Brennan
    Closing Time
    Heart Of Saturday Night
    Nighthawks At The Diner
    Small Change
    Foreign Affairs
    Blue Valentine
    Heartattack And Vine
    Mule Variations
    Blood Money
    Alice
    Orphans
    Glitter & Doom Live
    Bad As Me

    Remixed & Mastered in 2017 by Waits/Brennan
    Real Gone

    None of the others were remixed, were they?
     
  12. Hamhead

    Hamhead Sinatra promo specialist

    Small Change can't be remixed since it was recorded live to two track.
    Sounds great, nice DR values, happy customer.
     
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  13. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    That seems right.

    I grabbed Small Change from Qobuz in 24/96 to test the waters because it is an album that I know inside and out.
    Wow, I must say I'm really impressed with it. It sounds more impressive than my recollection of the original CD and my original German LP.
    It's also more upfront sounding, especially in the vocals, which threw me off a bit compared to the LP because the instruments kinda take a backseat. But the clarity and sheer presence is astounding, perhaps slightly too much on the vocals for me to be totally comfortable. :laugh: Other point of difference: the bass was deeper and more palpable. Extremely rare and unobstrusive limiting on 1 track.
    If all the Tom Waits remasters are similar, I'd say they are winners of a calibre the likes of which we didn't see for a long time. I will grab a few more for sure.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2018
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  14. John Moschella

    John Moschella Forum Resident

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    This is a tough call. If you don't have vinyl playback, these downloads may be a great option.

    However on vinyl the original US pressings are hard to beat. I noted that you are comparing to the German LP for Small Change. Yikes, those German Waits LPs are significantly a step below the US. My US press of Small Change is a very good sounding record. Then you also have the really nice LPs from Bellman a few years back, Nighthawks even besting my original. The older LP re-issue of Rain Dogs is also the best I have as well. Just about every LP original release on ANITI are very good sounding records.

    So as a Waits collector on vinyl I can't get too excited about this. But I will probably give one a shot when they run a 20% sale.
     
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  15. Patrick Cleasby

    Patrick Cleasby Hi-Res idiot

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    Has anyone else received the offer of a £50 off voucher for Technics Tracks? Seems straight up. You can use it on either one or two albums. Anyone got cool ideas for expensive boxsets only available from them? ;-)
     
  16. dtuck90

    dtuck90 Forum Resident

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    I have. I was to get the grateful dead July 78 box but it isnt valid on items over £50
     
  17. clarknovember

    clarknovember Well-Known Member

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    You can get the Coltrane Atlantic Studio Album collection for £46. Sadly the Scott Walker collection is £50.50.
     
  18. Patrick Cleasby

    Patrick Cleasby Hi-Res idiot

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    London, UK
    I thought you were entitled to top up with your own money?
     
  19. nikosvault

    nikosvault Forum Resident

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    Bought two older offerings from HDtracks. Madonna’s True Blue and Like a Virgin.

    True Blue is a nice improvement. Analog recording (I believe) and the 192/24 shows plenty of information above 44/16. It has deeper bass and it tames the loudness and brightness of the original Sire CD (good thing with all those aggressive synths).

    Like a Virgin is…disastrous. It might be the most embarrassing Hi-Res release I have ever heard. The top end has nearly been eradicated from the last 4 tracks. Like True Blue it’s less bright alright, but also sounds so covered and low-fi that production details are lost! I have heard 128k mp3’s that sounded waaaay better than this. Stay…. away.

    Shoo-Bee-Doo (HDtracks sample)
    Uploadfiles.io - Shoo-Bee-Doo (HD).flac

    Shoo-Bee-Doo (Original CD sample)
    Uploadfiles.io - Shoo-Bee-Doo (CD).flac
     
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  20. agentalbert

    agentalbert Forum Resident

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    That's really bad. Since you said the problem was the last 4 tracks, which was side 2 of the LP, I wonder if they used a different master for those tracks. Of course, knowing who did any transfer or what they used or any details at all for most hi-rez releases is almost impossible.
     
  21. Brinkman Ship

    Brinkman Ship Forum Resident

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    The classic Steve Miller 24/96 offerings are really good IMO.
     
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  22. Mickactual

    Mickactual Humble indie rock musician

    I dunno that I'd call it disastrous, but it lacks a certain punch the CD version has. Sorry for Your disappointment, but the heads-up is appreciated - and is exactly the type info we're all here for.
     
  23. nikosvault

    nikosvault Forum Resident

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    Ohh I could have picked a worse clip. It's bad.
     
  24. agentalbert

    agentalbert Forum Resident

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    San Antonio, TX
    Which particular ones did you get?
     
  25. Brinkman Ship

    Brinkman Ship Forum Resident

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    New York City
    all except Brave New World so far...
     

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