Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Gary, May 9, 2015.
Ffps would clear this up...
I'm not just talking about sticky shed. And I wasn't just thinking about tapes made in '77, but older material as well. Which might not have been stored correctly, or had alignment issues, or had issues with Dolby or dbx or some other noise reduction scheme mistracking, etc. etc. etc.
But since there are recordings that didn't even make it thru the recording process without major technical issues (like Steely Dan's infamous dbx issues with Katy Lied), I wouldn't be at all surprised people had trouble getting some material to master well to CD in the '80s due to pre-existing issues with the master itself (assuming they even laid hands on the right master to be using).
Any step you put the material thru can get screwed up, assuming they didn't intentionally do something to the sound. Also, I thought Afterglow used the single mixes, not the album mixes found on Out Of The Blue, etc.
Well, you don't have to convince me...the lunacy that exists in the audiophile, er audio phool hobby defies imagination. All of what I describe is well documented.
It extends even into the virtual..with the endless FLAC vs WAV vs AIFF vs ALAC debate.
Flac fingerprints. They would be different if the waveform data is different (ie different masters). Been wondering why they aren’t included with every download. Standard practice with recordists to include them in sets...
Good points. An intelligent post like yours is rare.
It was very interesting. You are right of course. But unfortunately the information you bring up just makes matters worse. The early stuff (most of it) sounded o.k....Well...mmm. Not bad... It was the 1975 - 1978 period that sounded so bad. And there is no single mix for: Boy Blue, Nightrider, Stadin' In The Rain, Steppin Out and all the other "non single" tracks that sounded like crap.
And I purchased ELO's greatest hits back in 1989.
It has the single mix/edit of Sweet Talkin' Woman. What ever that is on After Glow it is not the single edit/mix. So all the other non single tracks were taken from digital masters or perhaps copies. Who knows?
I think we can both agree that it really easy to screw up the sound of a CD.
Well, not just CDs. Listen to all of the complaints about vinyl reissues. In addition to sourcing the wrong tapes or screwing up the mastering, you've got a slew of manufacturing issues to contend with.
The labels clearly don't give a crap.
You are the last person I will be responding to.
I agree. They just didn't care.
I will assume you are not one of the 26 members on here that tried to bully me into not calling Giles Baby Martin which I have been doing for over a year. Calling Sir Paul - Macca though...
That's o.k. 26 members think I hate Giles. Most of them show way greater disrespect to Giles by saying he should never remix a Beatle album again. What a group of hypocrites!
I will miss you and a few others.
Please don't leave because of some morons here in the forum. There are lots of people who are interested in your knowledge and "stories from the studio floor", including me.
FWIW, both 7Digital and HDTracks show a copyright date of 1988 for Talk Is Cheap.
THIS WEEK on HDtracks...
Edie Brickell and New Bohemians - Rocket
Keith Richards - Main Offender
Eric Clapton - Happy Xmas
Elvis Costello, The Imposters - Look Now
plus much much more...
Don't go bro!
With regards to Talk Is Cheap, will the labels reply if you ask them about mastering questions?
So, no hi-res for Lennon and Bowie boxset?
So Bowie 24bit cancelled? Or do they want to sell the cd & version first and make the 24bit version available next year ...
Not all 80s stuff might be recorded this way, but Let's Dance already got an sacd-version ... although i'm not sure if it was real hi res or upscaled redbook.
"Let's Dance" SACD is mastered from a proper hi-res source, signals up to 35kHz. Probably the only Bowie SACD to recommend.
THIS WEEK on HDtracks...
David Crosby - Here If You Listen
Christian McBride - Christian McBride's New Jawn
Max Richter - Never Look Away
Chicago - Greatest Hits Live
plus much much more...
C&W fans take note -> There are a number of HiRes C&W and Bluegrass items on HDTracks. 96 and 192.
What was the verdict on the Hendrix Axis SACD? DR doesn't look that great compared to my 1985 Reprise.
Different note. Anyone have Laura Nyro Eli SACD? On sale at Music Direct for $19
It's an overall DR of 10 compared to a 12 on the Reprise CD, so it's not that bad. On the various Axis threads (I read 2 or 3 of them) dedicated to the new SACD, the majority thinks it sounds great for the stereo, perhaps best ever for the mono (save perhaps an original UK LP?). A minority prefer the Marino 2010 AAA version over the SACD. The AAA LP is a darker presentation overall. Bernie Grundman opted to lose some of the darkness to provide some extra musical detail (which again, a minority feel has too much emphasis on the treble compared to the Marino AAA LP). I didn't read a single person that thought the orginal Reprise CD bests the stereo on the new SACD.
hmmm. don’t agree..i like most of them...
Keep in mind I was talking about the technical side, not the quality of songs etc. All other Bowie SACDs I heard, are heavily over-compressed and nothing above 20kHz - I don't see the advantage over the CD here.
..actually i referring to sound quality...i carefully compared Heathen and Reality to the CDs and the SACDs were far more musical to my ears...I also think Let’s Dance SACD sounds terrific..
FYI, I recently discovered that the high-res release of the Who's A Quick One has several all new remixes, not available elsewhere AFAIK except maybe Itunes.
Batman, BucketT - vocals in wide stereo
Man With Money, MyGen/Land Of Hope And Glory - all new remixes and they're both awesome!
Other people have posted elsewhere that the high-res Stereo Sell Out also has a handful of new remixes exclusive to HD
And of course the best one (which you left out) is Kinks Village Green $14.38 24/48.
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