How would you rate "Outside" (1995) by David Bowie?

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  1. Haristar

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    "Outside" (also known as "1. Outside") was the twenty second studio album by David Bowie (if counting the Tin Machine albums and "The Buddha of Suburbia"). "Outside" marked the return of collaborator Brian Eno who had previously worked on the Berlin trilogy (1977-1979).

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    Track listing:
    -Leon Takes Us Outside
    -Outside
    -The Hearts Filthy Lesson
    -A Small Plot of Land
    -(Segue) Baby Grace (A Horrid Cassette)
    -Hallo Spaceboy
    -The Motel
    -I Have Not Been to Oxford Town
    -No Control
    -(Segue) Algeria Touchshriek
    -The Voyeur of Utter Destruction (as Beauty)
    -(Segue) Ramona A. Stone/I Am with Name
    -Wishful Beginnings
    -We Prick You
    -(Segue) Nathan Adler
    -I'm Deranged
    -Thru' These Architects Eyes
    -(Segue) Nathan Adler
    -Strangers When We Meet
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    Here is a recap of the series so far:
    "Heroes" poll Rating: 4.28/5
    "Let's Dance" poll Rating: 3.58/5
    "Hunky Dory" poll Rating: 4.79/5
    "Reality" poll Rating: 3.47/5
    "Diamond Dogs" poll Rating: 4.27/5
     
  2. Bowieboy

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    I'd rank it Pretty Great.

    I would say it's one of his more difficult albums ala Lodger, and I think a tolerance/appreciation for the mid-90s industrial rock sound is crucial to enjoying it, but I do so I like it.
     
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  3. 93curr

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    Very high. Loved it a lot when it first came out and my admiration has only grown over time.
     
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  4. johnnyyen

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    Essential listening- a true classic. Probably in my top 10 Bowie albums, and his best since Scary Monsters. I would have liked more albums with Eno; when they were together they seemed to create magic.
     
  5. Haristar

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    Bit of a shame that the Diamond Dogs thread got around 300 votes but this one only has around 20 so far.
     
  6. Really hard to rate properly.

    60% of the album is spectacular, right up there with the best of the best of his entire output (imho).

    Maybe 20% is just "good" or maybe even "quite good" - if I'm in the right mood.

    20% is just lousy (all the segues, or at least they don't work for me one bit), and maybe one or perhaps two tunes are down around this range in quality too.

    So I'm really torn between voting "essential" and just "pretty great". But 60% of it really is pretty damn essential, imho -- so I'm in the "essential" category overall, at the moment (in terms of voting).

    Favorite track: "I'm Deranged"

    Mike Garson's contributions throughout are really special.

    But I can't help but think that "Strangers We Meet" -- an otherwise really fantastic track -- doesn't fit with the rest of the album stylistically, or production-wise (sound-wise) either.

    Tons of great material, but not the most satisfying 'album' experience, unfortunately.
     
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  7. Chrome_Head

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    Went with "Pretty great--worth recommending".

    Bowie working with Eno again should always be cause for celebration, even though I found the approach and the concept here somewhat muddled.

    It still contains some fantastically haunting songs (three of them in a row, in fact: "The Motel", "I Have Not Been To Oxford Town" and "No Control"). Bowie was back in a big way and working in a very wiggy, lyrically cutting and cinematic manner probably not seen since the likes of Diamond Dogs (or Low/Heroes at least).

    I think this album started a late career resurgence that served him well to the end.
     
  8. daca

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    As I have never listened to, or heard of this album, I will cast no vote.
     
  9. Outside was my Fall 1995 album. I remember listening to it on a portable CD player going to and from work for a few months straight.

    It felt like a return to me, edgy, dark and so very cool.

    I have not heard it in a long time so reading this thread I put it on. Oh man, that voice, THAT VOICE!

    Hearing I’m Deranged brings in the chills and the feels.

    Love this record.
     
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  10. fuzzface

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    First David Bowie album I ever bough (right after it came out). Loved it then and still do.
     
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  11. karmaman

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    simply the best post-Scary Monsters Bowie album. i voted "pretty great".
     
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  12. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    When it first came out, my favorite album at the time.

    I bought it again via cassette in the last few years.

    Sometimes a bit disturbing.

    But a great collaboration between Bowie and Eno.

    I'm trying to remember if he was influenced by some new group at the time, that he went on tour with.

    Nine Inch Nails.

    Unless another one of his albums is associated with Nine Inch.

    Tin Man?

    I just looked it up.

    Tin Machine.

    But that was 1989.

    I'll have to research where the Nine Inch Nails fit into all of this.

    I just looked it up.

    Outside and Nine Inch Nails.
     
  13. NightGoatToCairo

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    Essential.
    Along with Earthling and Blackstar, Outside is easily in my top 3 Bowie since Scary Monsters. I remember hearing Hearts Filthy Lesson for the first time on VH1 along with the promo. My girlfriend at the time looked at me in disbelief and asked if I actually liked it. She was into UB40 and Billy Idol :biglaugh:

    The live band for the '95 tour through to early '96 were also my favourite Bowie Band of the lot. Check out Hallo Spaceboy from Jools Holland or The Voyeur Of Utter Destruction from The White Room. Awesome.

    I don't get the negativity towards the segues. In fact, my favourite Bowie 'album' of all is the prototype Leon Sessions, which is segue heavy. I'd love to see an expanded Outside along with these sessions released officially in the future.
     
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  14. dead of night

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    Bowie wasn't getting much attention during this part of his career, although he was putting out masterpieces like Outside, Earthling, Heathen, and Reality.
     
  15. Haristar

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    I know I'm in the minority here but I enjoy Hours as well.
     
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  16. Chrome_Head

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    I enjoy quite a bit on ..hours myself, though it's an album that gets a regular bashing around here.

    Swervedriver frontman Adam Franklin just released a cover of "Thursday's Child" on his Bandcamp page. Looks like the limited 7" sold out fast.

    Thursday's Child, by Adam Franklin
     
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  17. Haristar

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    I enjoyed that. I think it improves on the original actually.
     
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  18. Albiegator

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    I know Outside has been reappraised in recent years but like most of his 90's output, I feel it was patchy. Like nearly all of the great man's albums (from any era) there was always something special on every album, for instance the reworking of Strangers When We Meet is fantastic but 'Outside' doesn't reach the heights of the best of his post Scary Monsters output, such as 'Let's Dance', 'Black Tie, White Noise', Heathen or Blackstar.
     
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  19. footprintsinthesand

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    Too much predictable simplicity for me. Original still stands (I am a Thursday's Child).
     
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  20. Juggsnelson

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    Spot on:righton:
     
  21. footprintsinthesand

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    Just compared the two Strangers .. versions and overall the Outside version sounds a lot better (drums, bass, vocal, added Garson) with better separation. Just really miss the low rhythm guitar from Buddha. Now playing my album favorite (Earthling sounds on their way).



    All the joy I seeeee
     
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  22. karmaman

    karmaman Forum Resident

    that's probably the biggest insult to 'hours...' i've read yet!
     
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  23. rstamberg

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    BIG disappointment.
     
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  24. Tristero

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    I had to go with so-so here and I'm a little surprised by how many advocates this album has around here. Like many fans, I was hopeful that reuniting with Eno would help Bowie to reignite his creative jets and deliver a return to form. While the album has its moments, it suffers badly from CD bloat and those narrative bits are painfully self indulgent, interrupting the flow and pacing of the album. Outside is heavy on texture but lacking in memorable tunes.
     
  25. scobb

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    Essential as, IMO, it's his best album in the 22 year period between Scary Monsters and Heathen.
     
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