Iggy Pop-The Idiot,Lust For Life,TV Eye Live UME Vinyl Reissues 6/2/17 !

I just played Lust 4 Life (US release) and I'm mildly disappointed

It's a quiet remaster... meaning, I gotta raise volume by a lot.
IMO, just an average sounding pressing. Vinyl was slightly dished and had some surface scuffs.

Not 100% certain that it's a product of United Record Pressing but given the physical defects, I'm 95% certain that it is

 

if it's been cut from the hi-res digital file then it's a loud remaster that's been cut to vinyl at too low a volume. this might explain the surface noise comments of others.
just speculation from me, i cancelled the vinyl orders assuming they'd be using the hi-res files.

 

Do we know if there are any differences between the EU and US re-presses? From what I can gather U.S. versions are 120 g and EU 180 g pressings?

Regards

 

That''s a good question. I'd also like to know if anyone has spotted differences (apart from colour natch!) between the HMV exclusive silver & red pressings and the Back To Black European pressings.

I note that for the HMV version Discogs.com states for The Idiot:

• Pressed By – Optimal Media GmbH – BH71697
• Lacquer Cut At – Finyl Tweek
• Lacquer Cut By – Greg @ Ft
• Matrix / Runout (Side B (Etched)): BH71697-01 A1 5377246 GREG @ FT

Iggy Pop - The Idiot

but unhelpfully is not so informative concerning the standard EU BackToBlack and no Matrix/Runout details:

Iggy Pop - The Idiot

are both pressings Optimal/Greg@Final Tweek? And are they better than the 1990s EMI America release?
Iggy Pop - The Idiot
I expect they aren't going to improve on the 1977 RCA because things like that don't happen do they?

Coloured vinyl copies are still being sold at HMV for £21 with free postage - much cheaper than EBay UK where you can expect to pay over a fiver more
The Idiot (Hmv Father's Day Exclusive - Silver Vinyl)
Lust for Life (Hmv Father's Day Exclusive - Red Vinyl)
and black is £17 on AmazonUK.

 

This is what I've got in the dead wax for US version of Lust for Life:

B0026275-01-A
B0026275-01-B

And then Capitol Studios's Ian Sefchick's initials, like so:



And here's the dead wax for US version of The Idiot:

B0026277-01-A RE1 MASTER BY CAPITOL
B0026277-01-B RE1

Ian Sefchick's initials are also on this one.

 

Sorry - I realise I should have said 1990 Virgin America.
It's interesting that so many variants have been released at the same time. Surely they must all be the same remaster, perhaps just differing in the pressing quality?

These are in the top 10 all time records IMO. The Idiot has got to be in my top 3. I've got an original UK RCA which has little a bit of crackle (particularly annoying over the start of Dum Dum Boys and Mass Production), the 1990 Virgin America vinyl in mint which I bought at the time of release and the new US orange remaster which has a few quiet pops on it every time the record goes round and a bit of a warp which can only be seen if you watch the light shining on it. For me the new orange one sounds very good, but not pressed with enough care.

We'll get to the bottom of this even if I have to buy one of each to find out. They're all fairly cheap at the moment except for the Orange US one.
I'm surprised there's not much input here about these classics. We need to hear from UK buyers!

 

OK. I have bought and received the European HMV exclusive limited to 1500 copies silver (more like grey) vinyl edition.
I haven't played it yet, but first impressions - the sleeve is dark black and white, but the US Orange edition has a marked greenish tinge to the grey. I quite like the greenish tinge sleeve, but if you look at it next to the UK 1977 RCA it is not as good, and the original has no green tinge. The HMV sleeve looks very dark in comparison, and you can't see the detail on Iggy's hair. On all three the words IGGY POP and The Idiot are not aligned correctly and look as if they have been applied separately by a drunk person looking the other way.
The reverse sleeve of the HMV has the lyrics on a plain white background, whereas the other two use the grey background from the front sleeve photograph. The labels on the HMV silver do not feature the sleeve photo which is on side B of the US Orange.

Weight:
First Press UK RCA Victor (Iggy Pop & lyre symbol runout) - 120g
Orange US - 142g
HMV silver - 177g

We know that the US Orange vinyl is the "new analogue remaster", but what is the HMV? There is no mention of 2017 or remastering on the sleeve, label or record, just (p)1977. The b side runout has BH71697-01 B1 5377246 GREG @ FT, so it was pressed at Optimal and laquer cut by Greg at Finyl Tweek in London.
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This means it may well sound quite different to (and is probably less problematic than) the US (Side A (Stamped)): MASTERED BY CAPITOL (Side B (Etched)): B0026277-01-B RE1.

Anyone got the black vinyl UK version? Please contribute info - I don't want to have to buy it.
Iggy Pop - The Idiot

 

I have the UK black vinyl. If no-one else does it first I'll post the matrix info tonight.

 

Looks like we have another variant:

Side A: 19381 1A 00602557366242

Side B: 19381 1B 00602557366242

 

It looks a lot like the Record Industry scheme.

 

Does it mention 2017 or remaster anywhere on the sleeve or record, cos it doesn't on the HMV one?

 

Yes, in the copyright credit at the bottom of the back sleeve.

 

So. How does it sound? Anything to compare to?

Regards

 

Mine sound great. Got both the idiot and lust for life. Nothing to compare it to though.

 

Any of you guys miss the days when you just used to chuck an LP on and enjoy it?

 

Ahhh those were different times...
simpler days...

 

I think that mentality still actually exists for most of the population that doesn't over scrutinize and bitch about/ return pressings because the labels are of centre

 

You do know what an off center pressing is, right? It's got nothing to do with the labels.

But I do remember the days when off center pressings weren't such a rampant problem with newly pressed vinyl.

 

I bought the three-pack of these colour vinyl reissues that came with a tote bag from uDiscover. Sound is pretty good on the studio albums, though I haven't got around to checking out TV Eye 1977 Live yet. Not expecting Sonic Wonderment, exactly, given the source...

 

Thanks but I do. I'm talking about labels.

 

My silver HMV Idiot sounds really great until you get to the end of Mass Production where the last minute is plagued by quite loud surface noise like wooshing. Nice depth to the mix though IMO. Clear vinyl Lust For Life sounds better than I've heard it before (Virgin cd only). No complaints about that.

 

I enjoy it so much I bought it twice.

 

Where were people "bitching about/returning" records for having off center labels?

 

You mean the days before we decided to join this forum?

 

Jesus man. Seriously? I've seen it in numerous threads. General comment. Want me to give you links?