I'm so done with felt mats, because of the lint.

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by David A., Jun 10, 2018.

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  1. Linto

    Linto Mayor of Simpleton

  2. Sane Man

    Sane Man Forum Resident

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    +1 to acrylic platter; they look great, don't require an additional mat, and substantially reduce static, in my experience
     
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  3. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    That's my solution as well. I first ditched the felt mat for a rubber one from a different turntable but it was too thick. Then I spent considerable time shopping for mats and couldn't really make up my mind - cork mats seemed rather pricey and leather mats seemed like the kind of thing that looks cool but probably wouldn't necessarily perform all that well. Acrylic mats looked cool, but I finally decided that I'd have to get rid of the ringy ol' Pro-Ject cast iron platter if I was going to see any improvement, so I got an acrylic platter. I'm very satisfied.
     
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  4. KT88

    KT88 Senior Member

    Acrylic is much better on the Pro-Ject than the stamped steel platter. Felt is excellent on much nicer platters though. The heavy spun aluminum platters from AR and Linn, also Thorens, that had good tolerances and fit well, used felt to good ends. It decouples without damaging the Lp.
    -Bill
     
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  5. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    That makes sense. The steel platter just seems to be a uniquely poor option. It's kinda weird that they even use them.
     
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  6. KT88

    KT88 Senior Member

    It's just a cost thing. Steel is a great material choice when you want strength and weight, and you want to control costs. It has a couple of poor properties for a turntable platter though. It is magnetic, and that keeps the user from MC cartridges. It rings like a bell and doesn't fit some subplatters or spindles well as it is typically a thin, stamped section. Any platter, even acrylic benefits from a good mat IME though. Felt is my favorite as it doesn't allow dust to sit on top of it and be held firmly in place against an Lp side when you use the table. You'd have to keep any bare platter that wasn't porous like that absolutely spotless to get the same protection level for your vinyl records. Suede might be a close second. Even rubber and cork are typically hard enough and smooth enough to keep particles top side and rigidly against your fragile Lp. That's not a situation that I fancy.
    -Bill
     
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  7. Shiver

    Shiver Forum Resident

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    Did exactly the same thing with my previous table (Rega) to the same effect.
     
  8. David A.

    David A. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    That may be your impression but I didn't buy a leather mat because it "looks cool" (I don't think it looks particularly odious or grand). I bought it because I don't want any more dust issues, didn't want anything heavy (LP12), and wanted something regarded as not destroying the sound quality of the TT. It has worked out just fine--no more cork bits from the new cork mat I bought and returned, and no more constant battle with dust from a felt mat (tried a new felt also--same issue as the old one). different strokes, folks. Be happy!
     
  9. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    I wasn't being critical, I was just explaining my decision making process that led me toward the acrylic platter. The decision making process was probably flawed in some ways but it's almost certain that in my case a leather mat on a steel platter probably would not have been as much of an upgrade as an acrylic platter. But I did not mean to cast aspersion on your choice of a leather mat.
     
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  10. David A.

    David A. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I didn't take your comment as being critical. It's all good!
     
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  11. Jack Flannery

    Jack Flannery Forum Resident

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    I use the cork Vinyl Nirvana uses. What’ s good enough for them is good enough for me.
     
  12. JohnCarter17

    JohnCarter17 Forum Resident

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    Huh, now that I have read this I have determined nothing. (RP-6)

    I have cork under leather currently, replacing the felt the TT came with.
    I ordered Hudson Hi-Fi silicon, but haven't put in on yet.

    Meh.

    I think I need a listening session with a friend to try all the options.
     
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  13. krisjay

    krisjay Psychedelic Wave Rider

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    Tried about every kind of mat made. Right now I'm happy with a Hudson silicone/rubber mat. Most recently was using a cork mat, the difference is not subtle. Vocals are far more holographic, and instruments show greater soundstage and detail. One of the least expensive mats I've tried and one of the best, at least on an AT LP140.
     
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  14. Dream On

    Dream On Forum Resident

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    I've used felt mats in the past, and while they sound good on a Rega or Linn they definitely are a pain.

    I currently have a leather/suede mat, pictured below. Either side can be used. No static, which is nice.

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    I also have a VPI mat, made of I don't know what. It does feel kind of like felt, but not that soft or loose - it doesn't have fibers that come off the mat. It's relatively thick. Comparing the two mats, I think the VPI mat sounds better.

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    I have a Herbie's mat that I will try soon, plus a cork mat. I'm also planning on buying an acrylic mat to see how that sounds.
     
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  15. Bruce Burgess

    Bruce Burgess Senior Member

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    What is a Herbies?
     
  16. wgriel

    wgriel Forum Resident

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    Turntable Mats

    I used to use a Herbie’s mat and quite liked it. Currently I have an acrylic platter and don’t use a mat at all
     
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  17. punkmusick

    punkmusick Amateur drummer

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    I dislike felt mats but they solve my static problem
     
  18. Nakamichi

    Nakamichi The iceage is coming....

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    Me too. Tried cork and felt and heard no difference so just put the original rubber back on.
    I figured the Thorens engineers know more than I do.
     
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  19. Vinowino

    Vinowino Forum Resident

    I have a very expensive Clearaudio turntable. It has no mat. They did not recommend one. Best sounding table I have had.
    Previously with other turntables I had felt, rubber, cork because I thought one was supposed to. I will not go back to a mat.
     
  20. Catcher10

    Catcher10 I like records, and Prog...duh

    what wgriel said......
     
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  21. wgriel

    wgriel Forum Resident

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    Yeah, some years ago I used a Herbie's Way Excellent mat on a ProJect turntable I owned. I had serious static problems with the supplied felt mat and tried the Herbies as a possible replacement and loved it. When I sold the turntable I included the mat: my replacement table has an acrylic platter and I don't use a mat with it.
     
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