Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by ocd1, Nov 2, 2015.
Some of Sony's new higher-end Blu-ray players will also play DVD-A discs.
Aren't they essentially universal player?
I guess "universal" is very much era-dependent. And eras come and go rather quickly nowadays.
A player that handles DVD and Blu-ray, along with SACD and DVD-Audio, could perhaps be considered "universal." But with DVD-Audio being almost extinct as far as new releases go, the question is whether support for such legacy systems, today, is required to earn the "universal" badge, today. How far do you go back? What about laserdiscs? (Some laserdisc-capable players were also "universal" - back in their day - handling DVD, laserdisc and CD.)
And while I applaud Sony's addition of DVD-Audio capability to their new players (several years too late!) I see it as a pure marketing exercise: it remains a must-have if you want to have any chance of competing with the likes of Oppo, even though DVD-Audio use is likely but an extremely tiny fraction of what a player will see today. (And yes, I have a collection of DVD-Audio discs myself, as well as SACD, CD, Blu-ray (Audio), and, of course, laserdiscs. )
Yes, they'll play SACDs, too.
DVD-A is a niche product with recent releases and I believe planned future releases, for a digital disc player to be considered universal today, it still needs to handle DVD-A. I can't see how that is up for debate.
What it it's all lumped-in with SACD, FLAC downloads, hi-rez abilitiy, Quad, HDCD and Blu-Ray...NOW what happens to your "niche" argument? Looks to me more like a "Swiss Army Knife" of audio embellishment!
I pretty much agree. But as I said, I don't think the driver is the number of new releases, but rather the marketing-driven requirement to keep up with the Joneses - as your post so ably demonstrates.
Do you still have a functioning Pioneer laser disc player?
I still have two working Pioneer Laser Players and yes they are used every now and then. One plays DVD's and CD's too.
I have two laserdisc players.
The Toshiba XR-W75C is still going strong. I believe it was a Pioneer design / build, rebranded to Toshiba. Its limitation is that it cannot provide an AC-3 signal for those "newer" laserdiscs, so...
I also have a Pioneer CLC-D504 laserdisc player which has an RF output, which a Kenwood DEM-9991D RF Demodulator (say that in a Marvin The Martian voice!) then turns into an AC-3 (DD) output. I said "timely" because the Pioneer is in the shop right now being refurbished. It needs a new control circuit and the usual recap and power supply work - with perhaps a new laser. Budget is $300-400C. Why would I ever do that? (Very good question!): because I can; for nostalgia sake; and for ****s and giggles (literally; the player also has Karaoke capability, I have some karaoke laserdiscs, and my wife and her friends sometimes like to drink and do karaoke.)
Seriously! The Forum software censors ****s and giggles? Wonder if it handles poops and giggles. Or numbertwo and giggles?
Too many formats not enough output and few players that are compatible with all.
I kinda like the HDCD in its days. DVD-A sure, getting all of the King Crimson catalog. SACD, have a few but not running after them. These formats are dedicated to a niche market anyway and will appeal to either fans or audiophile.
Best solution will be hires download but again we are never sure of the source used.
Got an Oppo 103 a few months back. Will play all + PAL encoded DVD and BD. At $300 in a NM condition, it was the deal of the year!
I buy DVD-As and SACDs. By just going with SACD I would have missed out on a lot of excellent music that's only on DVD-A
Not sure it is dead...yet
DVD-A.net - The DVD-Audio Resource
I had numerous DVD-As from Rhino for years before I had an Oppo that could play them....Talking Heads brick, Doors "Perception" set, Jackson Browne's "Running on Empty", David Crosby's "If Only I could Remember My Name".... So wonderful when I could finally play them
It was nice that there were not many classical music titles I really liked that were on DVD-A and that spared me from falling into that BetaMax trap ...
No "trap" here . If one has a universal player that plays DVD-As and doesn't own a single one there is no "trap".
SACD is the "trap" - difficult to rip, so you'll always be dependent on having a player that can decode them. In contrast, it's fairly easy to rip DVD-Audio discs, and many computers and devices can play back their high res and multichannel audio these days, encoded as FLAC files or whatever.
^ On the nose-y.
"Dead" formats that I still play---
Vinyl- but there's a lot of life in the old girl yet.
Cassettes- making a bit of a comeback thanks to vinyl.
Reel to Reel- also a bit of a comeback.
Laserdiscs- well, OK, it's over.
DVD-A- not really dead but on life support.
There are a bunch of DVD players that also do DVD-A but not SACD. Check the thrifts and eBay for old Sony's and Panasonics.
But why would you want to if you can get an universal player like Oppo's, newer Sony's and recent players like Denon and Marantz?
I don't care if it's on an Edison cylinder. Whatever is mastered the best, I'll get.
Eh. They are now pretty easily ripped and, imho, easier than can DVD-As.
It's still alive and well in my apt. and automobile.
Why everything needs to be ripped?
First, there is no requirement that everybody needs to rip everything but.........................
1. some are concerned that there will be no practical hardware disc players for some formats in the looming future.,
2. many of us prefer to listen to files from storage over playing the physical discs for many reasons.
Backup. I wasn’t happy when my Blu Ray of Dark Side of The Moon failed (known issue with the European Blu Rays), but it was easy enough to burn a replacement Blu Ray with the 96K/24 bit stereo and 5.1 files from the rips.
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