Is it too late to get into vinyl now?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Martgrol, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Tullman

    Tullman I prefer analog

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    Boston MA
    Ok
     
  2. c-eling

    c-eling 'We Feel Their Presence In Our Soul'

    That compact has been on my thrift store 'find of the century' list for decades, along with Peter Schillings-120 Grad :laugh:
     
  3. c-eling

    c-eling 'We Feel Their Presence In Our Soul'

    Thanks for the clarification Preston. That New Order Technique I posted was probably digital in some way or form. Strange my old US compact disc kicks the old UK vinyl's butt :laugh:
     
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  4. Chooke

    Chooke Forum Resident

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    True, but I was referring to new music rather than remasters or re-issues. Many of the new stuff are cut at lower volume from CD dub masters so it won't mistrack due to the loud compression. The issue is not the digital master which if anything should objectively sound better than from an analog tape master source, but rather it is the mastering of the CD masters which is the issue.
     
  5. dh46374

    dh46374 Active Member

    Nah, spend the money on your digital equipment and music, if it's about the music for you.
     
  6. libertycaps

    libertycaps Active Member

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    Portland, OR, USA
    I gotta say i'm sad that the days of 99cent GW vinyl finds are over. ;(
    Found a lot of great stuff for dirt cheap that-a-ways.
     
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  7. wwright

    wwright Well-Known Member

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    San Francisco, CA.
    You'll still find great deals like that at flea markets or garage sales.

    And although generally a bit more expensive than 99 cents, Amoeba can be quite good that way. Two older pressings I've purchased there - a Chris Isaak S/T sealed LP for $9, or a Huey Lewis S/T sealed LP for $8.
     
  8. Brian Doherty

    Brian Doherty Well-Known Member

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    Los Angeles CA
    I got into vinyl as a kid, as I started my serious record accumulating around 1982. So by the time CDs came alongI already had like a thousand lps, so abandoning the format was never a possibility. Then I lived in LA in the glory days of vinyl-as-trash of the 1990s and added about another 2,000 lps at likely an average price of around a buck a piece....but in the past decade or so I've MAYBE added 100 lps to my collection? Probably less.

    I would DEFINITELY not start in on vinyl as a new music accumulator. Why? Not that vinyl isn't awesome. But it's too, too damn expensive. Both original pressings or within-decade-of-original pressings or absurd reissue culture. For me, it's over. It's too late both financially and emotionally to get anything on vinyl that I don't already have. Luckily in modernity the actual ability to hear music is for all the obvious reasons better and better. (You will note I'm not a "list my equipment in profile" forum user....)
     
  9. Jaffboy151

    Jaffboy151 Active Member

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    What's people's opinion...
    Will demand for vinyl remain strong or continue to rise? Or will it fade away? If so will it be wholesale or just say the millennials that move on to another fad resulting in the collapse of the new vinyl market while the 35/40+ age group market remains strong?
     
  10. pathosdrama

    pathosdrama Forum Resident

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    It's never late, but I hope you have good money to spend on all those 60s and 70s original presses :D
     
  11. Chooke

    Chooke Forum Resident

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    Perth, Australia
    In the long term all physical media will fade away, being a historical footnote. The Gen Z generation will likely be the last.
     
  12. Kill Uncle Meat

    Kill Uncle Meat Forum Resident

    Never too late, just do it. Try not to get obsessed with rebuying everything you already have on other formats, pick up those that interest you, get something you never heard, or just grab whatever you like when it fits your budget. I love CDs just as much as I love LPs for different reasons. Some albums I only have on LP, others on CD and some of my favorites I own on both formats. That works.
     
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  13. Mo0g

    Mo0g Member

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    I disagree, consuming music or any other media digitally is primarily convenience, for the masses. There will always be a significant market, in terms of being prepared to spend money, for people who want to consume media in a more selective and immersive way.

    With regards to vinyl specifically, as you have to find the record you want, take time to load it up, and you know you will be turning it over in 20mins or so, it lends itself to dedicated and deliberate listening. It is why I have got back into it, because I wanted to immerse myself in albums again, as they were meant to be experienced.

    I am not even sure I want to progress to lossless digital music at this stage, because I know the temptation will be to flick and skip tracks, as it is so easy.
     
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  14. Preston

    Preston Forum Resident

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    :) Well, (a-HEM) we all know around here how complicated it can be to determine the source material that a recording was mastered from!
     
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  15. Sid Hartha

    Sid Hartha Chooglin'

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    Illinois, USA
    [citation needed]
     
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  16. Chooke

    Chooke Forum Resident

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  17. tim185

    tim185 Forum Resident

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  18. e.s.

    e.s. Forum Resident

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    Emotionally???
     
  19. Sid Hartha

    Sid Hartha Chooglin'

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    The link goes to a blog by a guy who has mastered "thousands of CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray titles". His point seems to be that if a digital master is done properly, there's no reason the same master can't be used for both CD and LP, which sounds reasonable. I've personally had a few vinyl mastering engineers tell me the same thing.

    The part that I think you're referring to is somewhat contradictory:
    So, which is correct? (Not assuming that he would know, as his mastering business seems to be exclusively for CD and file-based formats). Even the slippery term "CD production Master" is not necessarily the same thing as "cut from a CD", which unfortunately gets repeated over and over again in these discussions. It's the use of broad generalizations that originate from speculation that I have a problem with.

    Any statement that begins with "Most vinyl these days..." pegs my BS meter.
     
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  20. broshfab4

    broshfab4 Forum Resident

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    Long Island, NY
    It's never too late! Wonderful sound and a lifetime purchase.
     
  21. Sid Hartha

    Sid Hartha Chooglin'

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    Illinois, USA
    Do you get the feeling that this whole 'digital vs. vinyl' thing really isn't about sound?
     
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  22. honestabe316

    honestabe316 Well-Known Member

    Never ever too late.....especially with all the recent reissues.....
     
  23. honestabe316

    honestabe316 Well-Known Member

    Some people like thier boat for fishing and some for waterskiing and cruises.....the lake is the focal point and the boats just the ways to a means......

    Ok...That was a dumb A_S analogy......but I do like vinyl for the whole experience....sure, some albums sound good on digital you can't really say that no digital recordings sound great.....but I prefer vinyl as I like the collectibility, the large tangible object, the smell of old cardboard, flipping sides, etc....and with my system I get a sound reproduction that suits my nedds.....who cares really....just enjoy the music any way you like but someone shouldn't really participate in forums like these if the get thier listening done via mp3's and such.....
     
  24. honestabe316

    honestabe316 Well-Known Member

    Oops....not saying you do your listening via mp3...lol...just anyone in general
     
  25. Thievius

    Thievius Forum Resident

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    Yes I'm sorry but the cut off date for enlistment was December 22, 2016.
     

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