Is Joy Division better on vinyl?

I was thinking of investing in some UK Porky's of Closer and Unknown Pleasures if they are worthwhile. It would be nice to own them purely for the iconic cover art, but I am more concerned with the sound quality. I have found that most of the UK vinyl I have bought from the post-punk era sound noisier than US copies. Also, I find that Porky mastering sometimes sounds a little dull on top end and might not suit the sound of these albums.

Should I spend big bucks for originals?

 

I've never heard Closer on CD. But my copy of the common-or-garden Aussie pressing of Closer was a fine thing. and a pleasure to listen to. It certainly was not noisy, and hardly dull on top in my system - but it's not an audiophile record.

I have no idea what the reissues are like.

 

I prefer Joy Division on vinyl. UK vinyl. The CD of Unknown Pleasures has extra reverb on the drums. It's weird. Anyone know the story behind that?

 

I have Unknown Pleasures and it's very good. And dead quiet.

 

I always thought the difference in sound was due to different EQ and top end on the original Factory CD. The original German PRT/Factory LP pressing sounds very close to the CD.

 

My original UK vinyl copies of Unknown Pleasures and Closer sound superb. Welll worth it.

I have the Heart And Soul box set which sounds pretty good for that material and also the 2cd deluxe editions og both which is so-so sound wise. Vinyl audibly beats both of these cd issues. I prefer vinyl anyway though, so that's a slight caveat.

 

The original UK vinyl of these titles (and the Joy Division and early New Order 12" singles) blow away their CD counterparts. One might think that because Martin Hannett used a lot of digital processing on these recordings that they wouldn't benefit from analog pressings, but he was still recording to tape, not to ProTools.

 

QFT. Listen to Driver 8 - the truth is being spoken here.

 

what is the quality of this boxset edited by rhino ?
http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=330684
is it worth the buy ?
thanks in advance

 

I chose this JD thread to bump....didn't want to start a new one....

Has anyone compared the "Factory" CDs of Closer and UP to the Japan first pressings (25CY-xxxx)?? I have the 25CY Closer and it kills the remaster that came out a couple years ago. Finally tracked down the 25CY of UP and expect it in the mail within a few weeks. Don't know much about the Factory CDs. Are they UK or pressed elsewhere in Europe?

Maybe there is a thread about this already, but if so, I missed it.....

 

the only issue with Joy Division vinyl is you will have to get She's Lost Control and Love Will tear US Apart on 12" singles - harder to fine, glad I kept mine from back then

 

Could someone with the original UK Factory CDs post the peaks? I'm wondering if any other pressing uses the same mastering. Thanks.

 

According to his profile he dosen't even own a CD player

 

+1
I picked up all the reissues when they first came out two years ago - Macman's right. Nice, flat, dead quiet pressings. They sound great as well!

 

So then how would he know what the CDs sound like at all, let alone that they are "blown away" by the vinyl...?

 

I do have a CD player.

 

If you want the best sounding Joy Division on vinyl, early UK Factory pressings should be on your shopping list. However, I think the vinyl reissue of 'Unknown Pleasures' is extremely good - it's sound is actually a little less 'closed in' than the original and some may prefer it for that reason. I thought the 'Closer' reissue was fine, but not as good as the original UK.

 

My UK Porky of Unknown Pleasures is one of the best sounding albums I own. Totally crushes the CD in every way.

 

How are the CentreDate issues of UP & Closer on CD? Are they the same as the Qwest?

 

I agree. Both reissues are excellent and worth picking up.

 

I have a first US pressing of UP and it sounds amazing to these ears. The opening drums on Disorder send chills.

 

Or you could get "Substance" on vinyl, a little harder to find but you can still get it for a decent price.

Anyone know why this wasn't included in the reissue campaign from a couple years ago?

 

I think they've since issued a few other comps and the box set, so they just didn't think it was needed...

But of course, it is, because it collects all those singles and non-LP things they put out.

Also, Substance on vinyl is significantly shorter than the CD version... just a heads-up.

 

Yes it is unfortunate, considering it includes arguably their three most popular songs. It just seems strange that pretty much everything else was remastered but Substance was left out in the cold when it is such an excellent release.

 

I agree. I mean, you can get all those tracks (and more!) on the box set, but what if you just want a solid single disc?

Oh well.