Is Pono no more?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by conjotter, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. Sigma6

    Sigma6 Forum Resident

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  2. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

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    It absolutely does not require transcoding - I can stream straight FLAC if I set it to do so. I don't - I transcode to 256kbps mp3, as that seems plenty "good enough" for mobile use - but Subsonic doesn't force it.
     
  3. oneway23

    oneway23 Forum Resident

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    I see...Alright, well, in that case, this doesn't appear very different after all, then.
     
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  4. Heart of Gold

    Heart of Gold Forum Resident

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    The new Neil Young 's streaming music service is called Xstream. Xstream, Pono ...Dirty Old Man...
     
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  5. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Well, he'd better hurry up and get his store back up. It's closing in on a year.
     
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  6. oneway23

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    I had the opportunity to have a couple of questions answered about BRIO by what I assume is an OraStream employee over on CA. They have posted a bit of an FAQ over there for those of you who care to check it out.

    I have been told that all remote streaming, either by BRIO desktop (on PC/MAC) or even through the cloud offering, is adaptive bit-rate streaming. I've said my piece about this over there, so I don't want to cut and paste, but, please feel free to view the exchange should you think it might be beneficial.
     
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  7. B-Mike

    B-Mike Forum Resident

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    Has anyone gotten past this blank screen?
     
  8. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Forum Resident

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    I filed a bug report and was quickly contacted by a developer. I let him work on my machine for a little and he figured out what was going on (it had to do with setting up NAT-pnp on my FiOS router). He was able to fix it (with some local code changes) and promised the next release would resolve it.
     
  9. Strontian

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    Pono has a new Steaming service.
    Pono branding and 4 albums to listen to. PONO
     
  10. dtuck90

    dtuck90 Forum Resident

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    How do I get this to work? I can't see anything?
     
  11. oneway23

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    This was a full web app yesterday, complete with 4 Neil albums to test. Seems it has since morphed into a link for the download of the server app.
     
  12. oneway23

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    Yes...A little late getting back to you as I said I would yesterday, Steve..My apologies...For anyone who downloads this to give it a whirl, you must forward a port in your router for UPNP in order for the server to function properly, as well as disabling all of your computer's sleep settings.
     
  13. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Forum Resident

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    I have the server running, and the web page still just tells me my server isn't running and offers to download it. Another false start...
     
  14. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect Forum Resident

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    Looked at the orastream/Brio site. Confusing. First, it seems to be a system for playing your downloads remotely, not a high-res streaming service. Second, I wouldn't install it beccause it says it requies upnp to be enabled and I regard that as a security risk. Presumably you can set up port fowarding manually, if you trst the app, but it doesn't say how.

    Tim
     
  15. Strontian

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    Seems that the Page has now be redirected @dtuck90. I know it's not much conciliation but I did take some pics while it was up.

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  16. Frankie TAN

    Frankie TAN New Member

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    We're sorry we had to take down the web app (that is for a mobile streaming app) that demonstrates how Xstream provides the highest quality audio vis-a-vis current streaming systems under the same conditions.
     
  17. oneway23

    oneway23 Forum Resident

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    Thank you for joining us here...Welcome!
     
  18. dtuck90

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    I downloaded Oratsreams Brio software on my Mac. Had no problems with UPnP and accessing my music through Safari on my iPhone but the software on my Mac is very buggy and doesn't add all of my musi to the library. Lots of albums with missing tracks etc and artist selection will only show the first album by the artist in alphabetical order
     
  19. Strontian

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    @Frankie TAN Thanks for the update on the removal. Was there any particular reason for the take down? purely out of interest and of course no obligation to explain anything, only if you can.

    The Non- Branded Pono Demo site is still available but with the same four albums, No black/grey background and no delivery scale in "Blue" it's a bit hard to find but it's there ;-) .

    @dtuck90 I'm running the Win64 and so far the only little annoyances are that although it displays and plays DSD it does not make any determination of BitRate for DSD. There is also an issue in how it treats cover art, embedded cover art is fine but not cover art in the root of the folder.
     
  20. Frankie TAN

    Frankie TAN New Member

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    The initial scanning do take some time - we've seen it being affected by metadata formats. Do send us a ticket so we can took into specific cases for appropriate fixes. For very large libraries, the other way to locate music files is to look in Local Drives (under Locations).
     
  21. dtuck90

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  22. Frankie TAN

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    Sure, it was taken down because the streams aren't cleared for royalty reporting as they were for demo purposes only.

    For DSD playback or streams, BRIO transcodes DSD to PCM WAV in 24/88 audio resolution for local playback. For remote access/streaming, the 24/88 PCM WAV is piped through for MPEG-4 SLS encoding for adaptive streaming to web audio (browser) or native audio (mobile app) playback.

    You would note that web audio (browser) is via a SLS-player based on JavaScript - hence there's no need for users to download/install a browser plug-in for 24-bit audio playback on browsers.

    We are working on better dealing with metadata. Please send us a ticket so we may look into specific cases to work on appropriate fixes.
     
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  23. Frankie TAN

    Frankie TAN New Member

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    Yes, we use an enhanced-version of MPEG-4 SLS for adaptive streaming. Do note that MPEG-4 SLS is only for remote accesss/adaptive streaming. BRIO does not stream locally; it playbacks locally as FooBar, JRiver audio players do.
     
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  24. cdash99

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    It'll be interesting to watch the Brior, x-stream roll out, etc., but if they start touting an MQA integration it will be change-the-channel time.
     
  25. oneway23

    oneway23 Forum Resident

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    N'ah...They see themselves as a direct competitor to the MQA crowd. Entirely different approach.
     
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