Is there even an audience for new rock anymore?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Scott S., Jan 26, 2017.

  1. dmiller458

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    It is 40-50 years later.
     
  2. DRM

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    I actually was asking if previous generations, previous to the Sixties and Seventies generations...such as the 3o's, 40's generation...if 40 or 50 years after their youth...were they interested in young people continuing the music of the 1930's and 1940's?
     
  3. dmiller458

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    You mean jazz, country, traditional pop, etc.?
     
  4. DRM

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    Yes. Are they upset if youth have moved on...past rock...to hip hop...EDM...etc. And are they expecting young people to gravitate toward jazz, country, traditional pop.
     
  5. dmiller458

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    Did you ever read any of the articles written about rock & roll when it first broke? It was the source of every evil known to man. You want to know what the recording industry really thinks of rock you look no further than the Grammys.
     
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  6. DRM

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    Maybe you misunderstand.

    Rockers who are old now...currently...in 2017...some of them...want young people to like the Rock of the Sixties and Seventies.

    But young people have their own music and their own new genres.

    Many have moved on past Rock.

    Just like we did in the Sixties and Seventies.

    I don't think musicians of the 1940's, 50 years later, were clamoring for kids in the 1990's to play 1940's music...
     
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  7. dmiller458

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    If you've already made up your mind, why bother asking the question?
     
  8. William Smart

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    Who must raise the family and run the home
    So papa is free to read the Holy Book?

    The mama! The mama! TRADITION! TRADITION!

    uhhh sorry I was feeling a little like, like

    A Fiddler On The Roof! Yadda yadda yadda deedle deedle Di Di DahDah DaH Dah Dum.... :shrug:
     
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  9. DRM

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    Thanks for sharing. Yes, I have an opinion. That's why I followed my rhetorical declarative "question"...with the statement: "Having said that.."

    And then I added some context.

    "DRM said:
    Is the Rock generation of the Sixties and Seventies more interested in the younger generation continuing Rock...compared to previous generations being interested in their type of music being continued 40 and 50 years later by younger people?

    Having said that, there's always been a wish to pass on to the younger generation treasures from the past.

    Traditions.

    Cultural ways.

    Family favorites."
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    I do know that there was some great music made in the Sixties and Seventies, in large part because of the huge numbers of young people. There was, of course, a baby boom following WWII, where everyone was so ready to have children...and lots of them...to settle down, come home from the war, and create life. Following the unbelievable death and destruction...in the millions...from that war.

    And because of advances in electronics and sound recording that came in the Sixties and Seventies.

    And I also know how some of the Sixties and Seventies rocker enthusiasts jumped on disco and really hated on it. Some burning records, I believe. And not all of the rockers jumped on the New Wave bandwagon. Or the New Age bandwagon of the 80's. Or the production qualities of the synth driven/electronic drums music of the 80's.

    What's worth continuing and celebrating...and revisiting...will continue.

    The Beatles are an example of a group that transcended Rock. Even in the White Album, maybe their album that rocked the most, they also featured show tunes, ballads, experimental pieces, shades of psychedelic music, a song that sounded like Tiny Tim could have sung it, etc..

    And their earlier work...which featured such great harmonies, melodies, vocals, and instrumentation...will never go out of style...because it's timeless in nature.

    Due to the quality of work they did.

    I'm not saying Rock is dead. (Although, admittedly, I did say Rock is so..."yesterday".)

    I'm just making a point.

    Much of rock has already been assimilated in the new music of today.

    If people want to still call it Rock, that's fine.

    Although I think the new music of today is worthy of its own genre.

    Hip Hop, Rap, Electronic Dance Music, etc.

    Whatever Adele does...whatever genre it fits into, it's being done by other female solo/singular artists as well.
     
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  10. DRM

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    Great movie and soundtrack.

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  11. DRM

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    This is true, rock and roll was largely reviled and disparaged when it first came out. And could you please elaborate on what you are saying...when you state: "You want to know what the recording industry really thinks of rock you look no further than the Grammys."
     
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  12. bherbert

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    No, there is not an audience for new rock. Rock music is pretty much dead. Fortunately, we have decades of older rock music to discover and explore.
     
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  13. I'm trying to be an audience, but between brickwalling and poor chops, it's becoming more difficult for me.

    I really am trying.
     
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  14. DRM

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    Timeless.

    The best of the best will always endure.

    The best of Rock will endure.
     
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  15. drbryant

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    In many ways, the “rock generation” of the 60’s and 70’s should be amazed at the resilience of rock among younger generations. I think I might have posted this before, but it’s quite common to see rock artists in their 40’s and 50’s (Green Day, RHCP, Guns N’ Roses, Pearl Jam, and the like) or even older (the Stones, The Who) headlining major festivals alongside younger acts in their 20’s and 30’s (often hip-hop, EDM or R&B, but some rock as well). Among 20-somethings I know that are really into music, there is little resistance to rock, even if it might not be the favorite genre.

    That’s an amazing thing. I keep repeating this, but rewind 50 years and take a look at the Woodstock lineup. There were 32 acts that performed, and how many were over 30 years old? Just one - Ravi Shankar. If you were older back then, there was no way young people would have listened to your Elvis or your girl group records, much less 50’s jazz, blues, or certainly pop vocals like Sinatra or Nat King Cole. Rock greats like Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard were viewed as “oldies acts”, fossils. Crazy.

    So, take heart. Rock is alive and well, largely, I believe, because young music fans today are much more open to sounds that might be viewed as “old school”.
     
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  16. William Smart

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    Rock is not dead. A perusal of YouTube will bare that out. I'm not talking about "vintage or classic" rock. New Artists in every genre from hard to psych. And older artists who still perform. The last KISS concert I attended probably had as many young people in attendance as older. The same as King Crimson at the Beacon this past November. I was surprised at the number of twenty somethings in the audience. Sorry brother, but Rock ain't dead. Or as Danny and The Juniors put it so eloquently "Rock & Roll will never die". Peace
     
  17. William Smart

    William Smart 21st Century Schizoid Man

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    Topol Rules! The play, the movie, incredible!
     
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  18. dmiller458

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    IF rock is dead, how did we have 5 rock albums in a row top the UK chart is fall 2017?
     
  19. DRM

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    I wonder what the 5 rock albums are that topped the UK chart in fall of 2017.
     
  20. FrixFrixFrix

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    Here's everything that hit #1 on the UK album charts since the beginning of June that could be considered rock:

    6/2/17
    The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
    Next two weeks: #2 / #7

    6/23/17
    Royal Blood - How Did We Get So Dark
    Next two weeks: #4

    7/21/17
    The Vamps - Night and Day
    Next two weeks: #35 / #50

    8/4/17
    Arcade Fire - Everything Now
    Next two weeks: #3 / #10

    9/1/17
    Queens of the Stone Age - Villains
    Next two weeks: #5 / #9

    9/8/17
    The Script - Freedom Child
    Next two weeks: #5 / #4

    9/15/17
    The National - Sleep Well Beast
    Next two weeks: #9 / #21

    9/22/17
    Foo Fighters - Concrete & Gold
    Next two weeks: #2 / #6

    9/29/17
    The Killers - Wonderful Wonderful
    Next two weeks: #7 / #4

    10/13/17
    Liam Gallagher - As You Were
    Next two weeks: #2 / #4

    12/1/17
    Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Who Built the Moon
    Next two weeks: #10 / #11

    Meanwhile, Ed Sheeran's Divide has been hovering around the top 6 slots for 43 weeks, with 19 weeks at #1 (including this week).
     
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  21. ralphb

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    It's fine to not like current music, everyone has their own taste, there is no right or wrong when it comes to that. But when people make these blanket rock is dead statements, they shouldn't be surprised when they get a little push back on that.
     
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  22. dmiller458

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  24. DRM

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    I view all of this new rock as derivative and variations of a theme already played out.

    Even if it's selling.

    Although, I guess that means there still IS an audience for new rock.

    Maybe there's groundbreaking new rock that I just haven't heard. Or heard much of via the mainstream media.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2018
  25. DRM

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