Is there quality loss when CD tracks are turned into WAV files?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by rock76, Nov 7, 2004.

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  1. rock76

    rock76 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Or is it the best way to burn using drag-and-drop directly from the original CD?

    (I've always wondered that)
     
  2. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    The quality of the .wav file ripped from CD is always dependant on the quality of the CD ROM/burner doing the ripping, and the software used to rip. I would say that in 98% of the time, no, there is no quality degredation, or at least any that matters.
     
  3. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    None whatsoever...It's digital...just a simple clone.
     
  4. BrettyD

    BrettyD Senior Member

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    So ...no difference when using Audition, between just opening a CD track and using the "extract from CD" option?
    I didnt hear any, and didn't think there would be.
     
  5. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Nope, no difference. I do 99% of my ripping with Audition.
     
  6. Captain Groovy

    Captain Groovy Senior Member

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    WAV files actually have the capacity to hold more information than the standard CD. I've archived some reels into WAV files at about twice the bit rate of a CD. I think the term is "bit rate," anyway.

    And I use a program called "CloneCD" for my duplicating needs. Great program.

    JEFF!
     
  7. Rob LoVerde

    Rob LoVerde New Member

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    There should not be any degradation of the audio when changing to a .wav file. In fact, it's the best format to use for PCM 16-bit 44.1khz audio, if you must make a file of audio.

    Now, me the purist.................Hahahaha.
     
  8. Vivaldinization

    Vivaldinization Active Member

    You're not "changing" anything, really. Firstly, realize that there's no such thing as a "CD Audio" file. Windows pretends these exist (with the .cda extension) but they're an operating-system conceit; in reality, there's no such thing. CD Audio is comprised of PCM sampled at 16-bits/44.1kHz. When you "turn these into WAV files," what you're actually doing is grabbing the data stream, performing a bit of byte-reodering, and shoving it into a file.
     
  9. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    Correct, that's exactly what I use for my original music.:)
     
  10. Cyaneyes

    Cyaneyes Forum Resident

    Always use a secure ripping program such as EAC to be sure your extractions are bit-identical. Any program will work fine for a mint condition CD, but if there are scratches, extracting with a non-secure program can lead to pops in your WAVs.
     
  11. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Certainly! I do many of my needle drops in hi-rez (32-bit/88.2k). Wav files can hold a lot more information about type, name, images, what have you. Other than that, David is again spot on with his info!
     
  12. Luke M

    Luke M New Member

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    A caveat does apply. Some CDs use a feature called "pre-emphasis", which modifies the interpretation of the audio (boosted treble). Because this bit is not part of the audio data, it will not be captured by a .WAV file.

    However, since 99% of CDs do not use pre-emphasis, this is usually not a problem.
     
  13. reidc

    reidc Senior Member

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    I only use EAC to rip music to my drive. In fact I make clones of some of my CD's SPECIFICALLY for use in my car using only EAC. I cannot fathom using some of my rare or Golds in the car environment.

    Chris
     
  14. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    If one wants to boost the treble, they can do so right on their EQ anyway.
     
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