Jeff Jampol: Doors working on Hollywood Bowl 1968 restoration

It could be worse...a 2012 lead vocal from Jim, dubbed into a 1968 live recording...along the same lines as what Peter Gabriel did for the live "Lamb" on the Genesis Archive box. Not that Jim being alive would be bad a thing

A 1968 studio vocal put into the 1968 live recording...if they can match it up, that's as good as it can get...if the live vocal is not usable

Come on October

 

I don't have a problem with it....if they indicate in the booklet or in bonus material somewhere, what is actually from the Hollywood Bowl and what is not. I don't care for this "we're gonna sneak it in here and there and see who we can fool..." mentality.

 

Well, I don't know if they will include that info in the booklet. But from what I have read, I think there is a documentary as a bonus feature on the DVD...which should entail the restoration process. This could be potentially quite informative.

I'm so excited that I've ripped the core 6 studio albums (DCC's, AF's) to my iPod...plus needledrops of Full Circle and Other Voices. I can hardly wait to hear this one.

 

You're saying it's possible to get a new 2012 live lead vocal from Jim Morrison? That's what I call a special effect.

I assume they'd have to call that one in long distance...

 

LOL.

I tried to word things wisely but I knew someone would call me out. if Jim were alive, having him sing over it would be bad.

 

He is the lizard king, he can do anything

 

Maybe they shoudl have Cliff Morrison overdub the vocal parts. They had the son of one of the Santana's percussionists overdub a part on the Woodstock DVD that wasn't on the multitrack.

The Band did some overdubs in the mid 80's and on the boxset in the mid 90's.

They also had John Sebastian overdub his harmonica on the Felt Forum boxset just 2-3 years ago.

 

I knew that his original in-the-flesh contributions weren't well-recorded - didn't he redo his part on Little Red Rooster in the early 80's, around the time that Alive She Cried was, erm, "compiled"?

I hadn't realised he then went back AGAIN to those tapes for the Felt Forum box...

 

In fairness, the official doors website offered the 'untouched' versions of the John Sebastian tracks as a free download at the time of the FF release (they still may be available-I'm not sure).

 

Not quite. In some cases, the vocals were so severely damaged that there was no option but to fly in vocals from other live performances or, in the case of "Hello I Love You," not include the song at all. I suspect the bluray release will still feature some AL vocals in places. Rothchild's reason for changing "Light My Fire" was a commercial one. As you can hear in the YouTube clip, and collectors heard on the audience recording, Jim totally changed the melody when he sang the ending. Rothchild wanted to release the song as a live single and that's why he dubbed that portion with a more typical live performance. It was a creative decision and there may have been other such creative decisions made -- like editing out the first half of "Spanish Caravan" -- but that doesn't mean that there weren't changes made for technical reasons as well.

Nice. But I'd recommend getting Other Voices and Full Circle on iTunes. They're sourced from the LP masters and sound great.

 

Has the unedited soundboard ever circulated?

Define "damaged". It's not the mastertape itself as the instruments sound fine. I find the mic hum or disconnected mic excuse weird as it's only on some songs and it can be heard on the audience tape. Plus Jim had 3 years to sing parts again if they really needed it for his film projects.

I'm well aware of why Ray, Bruce and maybe Rothchild said at the time, but some of what they did in the mid 80's and the boxset have fans raising legitimate questions.

 

I'm not one to purchase lossy stuff from I-tunes. Just the way I roll.
My needledrops are from dead-quiet vinyl copies, so I'll stick with those. Recommendation appreciated though

Back to Hollywood Bowl...It's my belief there were some technical issues, causing the exclusion of some stuff. I also believe they used that as an excuse to *fly in * some other stuff for artistic reasons.

 

Thank you for your informative post.

 

What is the tangible evidence that there is technical issues with Jim on the multitrack? Is everyone going on Bruce/Ray quotes from a couple decades ago?

 

The Doors Hollywood Bowl 68 - The Real Don Steele Show, KHJ Boss Radio L.A Concert Promos...very cool to hear a vintage aircheck...and you can win a pain of tickets...the show is stone cold sold out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXQ67cbKKo

 

Interesting read guys.

 

Moonlight Drive excerpt from the new release. Note the insert shot of Krieger at the 55 second mark taken from a different performance where he is wearing different clothes and breathing frost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjGeKaxo3qc

 

Thanks for that. The only thing that looks different are Robbie's pants...so, there ya go

But the audio...Robbie's guitar parts are different, comparing this to the audio on the 1987 video. I'm not surprised that there were 1980's era overdubs.

 

I hope they list all 'edits/fixes' in the liner notes

 

Don't forget the steam he is breathing in the insert shot filmed at a different show. Looks odd to see that breath steam inserted into a July summer concert at the Bowl.

 

That too Unless it was a cold July night in Los Angeles...doubtful. That insert probably comes from the footage shot for Feast Of Friends...perhaps unused?

 

Why would they put in shots from a different show in there? Jeez.

 

Because that is the kind of crap The Doors do. Frustrating band. I'm still pissed that the 3 discs of additional LA Woman outtakes got shelved because of incompetence.

 

I have to agree with you, unfortunately.

It's a bloody disgrace the way this company treats the catalogue.