Jethro Tull - Aqualung DCC

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  1. Elegy

    Elegy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Just got through listening to this masterpiece once again. Steve, it must have been a thrill for you to work on this gem. Simply fantastic!. You've undoubtedly heard this a million times before but thanks for all your great work.
     
  2. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    Yes, and I do hope that Steve gets to do the Tull catalogue in SACD!

    I wish DCC could have negotiated for the whole catalogue at that time.... I understand that it was tough enough getting the tapes though!
     
  3. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kind of fellow. Stax Sigma

    The DCC is the only version that sounds like my memory of the Island/Chrysalis UK 1st vinyl pressings. Beware of MoFi vinyl - lots(!!) of eq. Beware of the EMI 25th anniversary lots(!!) of every device known to man to improve the sound :(
     
  4. Elegy

    Elegy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I agree Gary, on both accounts. Mofi remastered 6 Tull titles to CD and Aqualung was not one of them. I wonder why DCC could not acquire those same tapes?

    Sure would have been nice to hear Steve's remaster of those.
     
  5. Elegy

    Elegy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I have the Mofi vinyl and the EMI 25th on vinyl and CD. Agreed. The DCC is simply the best sounding copy I have ever heard. And I have many copies of Aqualung.
     
  6. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    'Cause I'll bet you dollars to donuts (K Kreams? :D ) that MFSL did not use the original master tapes. Maybe they were the original USA (1st gen.) masters or something.

    Remember the story where Ian Anderson sent - by courier - the original tapes to DCC and he let them have them for a mere week? Ian seems to have a keen sense of the value of those tapes. Wise! He probably still has them (although I do hope he is still not storing them in his garage!!!).

    Just a theory that I have.

    Speaking of which, he was just playing the Molson Ampitheatre last night.... should have gone down there. Oh well...
     
  7. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    Oh and that 25th anniversary CD? I have it. Wow, is it bad!
     
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  8. Elegy

    Elegy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I am not familiar with that story although I have heard he used to store his tapes in the garage. Oh my! That can't be good. Anyway, I am sure he has wised up to that and now realizes the value of these tapes.

    He just played here last week (Rochester Hills) and I missed the concert. Could not be helped and I am greatly disappointed.

    Listening to Minstrel In The Gallery. Superbly crafted.
     
  9. Dob

    Dob New Member

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    FWIW, I seem to remember reading, many years ago, that MFSL did indeed use the original tape, personally delivered and picked up by Ian himself (didn't even want to trust a courier). MFSL was allowed to have the tape for four days, no more. Sounds like this all took place in England, but it may have happened in the US, and Ian may have delivered the tape himself because he had other business here.
     
  10. SonicZone

    SonicZone Senior Member

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    I seem to remember reading in ICE that Ian only allowed Steve to have that Aqualung tape for three days. (Shed some light here, Steve?)
     
  11. Ben

    Ben New Member

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    Contrarian

    I love my MOFI "Aqualung" vinyl......it kills. The music explodes out of my speakers...


    I haven't heard the DCC Aqualung vinyl....do have the Gold CD...



    Best,

    Ben
     
  12. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kind of fellow. Stax Sigma

    A quote from inside DCC's Aqualung booklet:
    "Please note, this is not a remix of Aqualung. This is the first American release made from the original British 1971 two-track master mixes. S.H."
    .....and it sounds WAY closer to Island vinyl, as I said before, than the heavily equalised MoFi (which may explode out of the speakers, but if it does, it's not the correct Aqualung sound).
     
  13. Bob Lovely

    Bob Lovely Super Gort In Memoriam

    Friends,

    I consider the DCC Aqualung as mastered by Steve to be the definitive version of this classic album. I have used it to demo my system with friends.

    Their immediate reactions have been smiling faces, nodding heads and requests to look at the jewel box and liner notes!

    Bob
     
  14. Guy from Ohio

    Guy from Ohio Senior Member

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    I have yet to get the DCC version, but I do have all the MOFI's. The 25th anniversary release of Aqualung didn't thrill me at all, which is why I hesitate to invest in another.

    Ian's own remastering in the box set (also I guess the single classics) was really terrible. Percussion like military ordinance, grand canyon echo on all vocals, poetic license I guess. Someone should get these out of his hands.

    What's the story on the quad version? I bought this when it first came out and was surprised to find that not one track used the same tapes from the original.

    (my first post! greetings!)
     
  15. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Senior Member

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    Regarding the Quad Aqualung - it seems to me that most of the performances are re-mixed versions of the same takes used on the stereo lp, except for Wind Up - which is a totally diffrent recording, and possibly a different vocal take on the "sun streaking cold" section of the title cut. I still have this lp, but haven't listened to it in ages. What other differences do you hear? Obviously - these had to be re-mixed from the multi-tracks to accomodate the additional channels, but aside from what I mentioned, the performances seem to be the same.
     
  16. Guy from Ohio

    Guy from Ohio Senior Member

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    Quad

    It has been awhile since I've listened to it too.

    But it always seemed to me that the vocals and instrumentals were close but not the same. As if it were a re-creation of the original, the last track totally different as you said. The violins on the quad slipstream are not the ones on the original, Martin's solo on the song Aqualung is not quite the same. There are differences throughout all the songs that suggest different takes are used. Close but not the same.

    This was HQ quad, I remember the SQ(?) quad records sounding exactly like their stereo originals. Was there a difference in the two processes that made it necessary to use different takes?
     
  17. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    Hi and welcome!

    After you do aquire DCC's Aqualung that 25th Anniv. will be on Ebay quicker than a Jack-rabbit in heat! Even your prized Mofi's will take a sad second place to this one.;)
     
  18. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Senior Member

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    Re: Quad

    I actually have Aqualung on a CD-4 discreet quad disc. I will listen to it later to see if I notice any differences. On many quad lp's certain solo's were different from the released stereo versions - I've often felt that, in many cases, final overdubs were not done on the multi-tracks, so years later when they were pulled out of storage, they didn't have exactly all the required elements to re-mix (Alice Cooper Billion Dollar Babies and Allman Brothers at Filmore had some varying solos).

    I also have SQ quad of Santana's Abraxas lp, and it is DRAMATICALLY re-mixed.
     
  19. krabapple

    krabapple New Member

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    hmm.. I can't see (hear) using this album as a demo. It's just not that well recorded. (Ian Anderson concurs).

    That said, SH did a fine remaster.
     
  20. krabapple

    krabapple New Member

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    Re: Quad

    Some of the quad mixes are bonus tracks on the 25th Ann. edition. IIRC they sound dreadful.
     
  21. krabapple

    krabapple New Member

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    I remember reading that story about the tapes being lent to Mofi with IA in attendance, *and* I've read that the DCC is supposedly the only American release that came from the *true* master tapes. Always wondered about the discrepancy.
     
  22. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    We had three days with Aqualung. The tape keeping the boxes closed was petrified on there. Hadn't been cracked open in many a year.
     
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  23. Bob Lovely

    Bob Lovely Super Gort In Memoriam

    KA,

    A demo in this sense--as compared to sound of the original release on CD. I enjoy the sound of the recording. It is intimate, smooth and well-defined as mastered by Steve. I have found that the most effective "demos" are recordings that people are very familar with.

    Bob :)
     
  24. Ben

    Ben New Member

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    Define "correct."
     
  25. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kind of fellow. Stax Sigma

    Correct (IMHO) = as close as possible to the A1U/B1U UK Island/Chrysalis vinyl pressing.
    MoFi's attempt was so different that I thought it was a remix at first. Further listening revealed very heavy equalisation to make it more dynamic. I guess now you would call it maximised - LOTS of bass added, lots of treble.
    I would have liked Aqualung to have been better recorded too (ESPECIALLY the drums) The MoFi sounds like what was done to the Virgin Bowie CDs (and I like these - not because they are faithful, but they sounded better than the Rykos to me - and try getting hold of RCA CDs in Australia) :laugh:
     
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