Jimi Hendrix - Let's Talk About How We Would Have Put Together His Posthumous Albums!

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  1. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Most fans seem to have a problem with how Alan Doulas or Experience Hendrix have treated Jimi's posthumous out, so guys lets talk about how we Hendrix fans would have put together Jimi's posthumous catalogue in a properly organised/sequenced way.

    For starters.....

    Individual releases of the Are You Experiended, Axis & Electric Ladyland Sessions
    Band Of Gypsies Studio Collection/collections
    Royal Albert Hall Rehearsal Sessions
     
  2. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Forum Resident

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    Let's start with getting the "Pot" out of "Pothsumous". Otherwise, we'll be smoking too much of it... ;)

    The correct spelling is "Posthumous".
     
  3. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    DOH! Graham :doh:
     
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  4. Fullbug

    Fullbug Forum Resident

    Humus is great. You take some of that and put it on pita bread and you really have something. I dunno about the pot, though.
     
  5. I wont try and tackle Jimi's pre-Experience material, but I'll have at go at where my interest kicks in:


    Are You Experienced Sessions and Associated Singles and B-sides (Oct 66- April '67):

    Studio recordings:

    Expanded Are You Experienced (stereo / mono)
    Purple Haze
    Manic Depression
    Hey Joe
    Love Or Confusion
    May This Be Love
    I Don't Live Today
    The Wind Cries Mary
    Fire
    Third Stone From The Sun
    Foxey Lady
    Are You Experienced?
    Stone Free
    51st Anniversary
    Highway Chile
    Can You See Me
    Remember
    Red House

    From the "Purple Box":
    Purple Haze (final master variation)
    Hey Joe (early demo)
    Foxey Lady (alt. recording)
    Highway Chile (alt. recording)
    Title #3 (previously unreleased)
    Third Stone From The Sun (alt. mix)

    From the West Coast Seattle Boy Box Set:
    Fire (alternate recording)
    Are You Experienced? (title 4, unreleased recording)
    May This Be Love (alternate recording)
    Can You See Me (mono mix)
    Love Or Confusion (alternate recording)

    Associated Live tracks:

    Live from Olympia Theater, Paris Oct. 18, 66
    Killing Floor
    Hey Joe (both from the Purple Box)

    Is there some Dagger Record release for the whole Paris show?

    Associated BBC Tracks (mono / fake stereo):
    Feb 13, 1967 recordings:
    Foxey Lady
    Stone Free
    Love Or Confusion
    Hey Joe
    Foxey Lady (alt. ver?)
    Hey Joe (alt. version)

    Mar. 28, 1967 recordings:
    Fire
    Purple Haze
    Killing Floor

    Apr. 17, 1967 recordings:
    Manic Depression
     
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  6. No Bull

    No Bull Forum Resident

    Pot and Hummus go together like Peanut Butter and Jelly.... Fish and Chips... RC Cola and Moon Pies...

    I would love to imbibe in some Pot and Hummus while listening to Hendrix!!!
     
  7. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Forum Resident

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    Someone tried to correct the title, but it is still spelled wrong: Posthsumous???????????

    It should be Posthumous
     
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  8. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Excellent!

    The only difference I would make is to use the correct and original sequence for the actual album with bonus singles tagged on....

    1. Foxey Lady
    2. Manic Depression
    3. Red House - Jimi Hendrix
    4. Can You See Me
    5. Love Or Confusion
    6. I Don't Live Today
    7. May This Be Love
    8. Fire - Chas Chandler
    9. Third Stone From The Sun
    10. Remember
    11. Are You Experienced?
    12. Hey Joe
    13. Stone Free
    14. Purple Haze
    15. 51st Anniversary
    16. The Wind Cries Mary
    17. Highway Chile
     
  9. John Fell

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    The correct sequence for the United States was used and @prognastycator resides in the United States.
     
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  10. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    @prognastycator

    The list you gave for AYE makes for a fabulous release, why either Douglas or RH couldn't see that is beyond me.
     
  11. That's a legit approach to tracking, but for the debut should it be the US or UK track order?
     
  12. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff Thread Starter

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    Trying not to be pedantic here, but I do think it should be the sequence that Jimi & Chandler put together on the original release from the UK/rest of the world. That said the list you put together is a fabulous one that seems to make sense to everyone other than those who are, or have been actually in charge of the catalogue.
     
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  13. Anyone know if I missed anything?
     
  14. t-man 54

    t-man 54 Well-Known Member

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    Not to threadcrap but.....How about a complete pre-experience box set featuring ALL the recordings he made from 1963 to 1966 ?
    Put it all in one complete box instead of spreading the recordings over different box releases.
     
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  15. Axis Bold As Love Sessions (May - Oct., 1967)

    Axis Bold As LoveThe (Stereo & Mono)

    EXP
    Up From The Skies
    Spanish Castle Magic
    Wait Until Tomorrow
    Ain't No Telling
    Little Wing
    If Six Was Nine
    You've Got Me Floating
    Castles Made Of Sand
    She's So Fine
    One Rainy Wish
    Little Miss Lover
    Bold As Love

    From South Saturn Delta
    Little Wing (embryonic Sweet Angel Oct. 14, 1967)
    South Saturn Delta
    Midnight

    From the "Purple Box"
    Taking Care of No Business
    Here He Comes (Lover Man) -April 4, 67, maybe include this with the previous collection?
    Burning The Midnight Lamp (harpsichord fragment)
    If 6 Was 9 (alternate recording)
    Little Wing (alt. instrumental)
    Little Miss Lover
    Bold As Love (Alt. Instrumental)

    From the West Coast Seattle Boy box
    Mr. Bad Luck (early Look Over Yonder)
    Cat Talking To Me (Instrumental) (with added 80s vocals on the "Fire" cd single)
    Castles Made Of Sand (Alt. recording)

    From Valleys Of Neptune
    Mr. Bad Luck (alt., early Look Over Yonder)

    Associated BBC Tracks (mono / fake stereo)
    Recorded Oct. 6, 1967
    Little Miss Lover
    Burning The Midnight Lamp
    Catfish Blues
    Hound Dog
    Driving South
    "Jammin"
    I was Made To Love Her
    Driving South (alt. take)

    Recorded Aug. 24, 1967
    Burning The Midnight Lamp

    Recorded Oct. 17, 1967
    Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window
    I'm Your Hoochie Coochie Man
    Driving South

    Recorded Dec 15, 1967
    Hear My Train A Coming
    Wait Until Tomorrow
    Day Tripper
    Spanish Castle Magic


    Associated Live Tracks
    Monterey Pop Festival, June 18, 1967
    Killing Floor
    Foxey Lady
    Like A Rolling Stone
    Rock Me Baby
    Hey Joe
    Can You See Me
    The Wind Cries Mary
    Purple Haze
    Wild Thing

    Stockholm Sept.5 1967 (from Stages)
    Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
    Fire
    The Wind Cries Mary
    Foxey Lady
    Hey Joe
    I Don't Live Today
    Burning The Midnight Lamp
    Purple Haze

    Olympic Theater Oct. 9, 1967
    The Wind Cries Mary
    Catfish Blues (both from the Purple Box)
     
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  16. Please compile one and post it to this thread. I'm not that familiar with that part of Jimi' s career.
     
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  17. Wayne Hubbard

    Wayne Hubbard Forum Resident

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    There have been a couple threads on here attempting to do that.

    Jimi Hendrix - a posthumous discography "redo"

    There are some other threads, which I couldn't find through searching, that listed the officially
    released material by year/sessions.
     
  18. Thanks, that thread is similar to what I'm trying to do, but I am sticking to officially released tracks only, and taking a more chronological approach vs. artistic themes that seem to be popular in that thread.
     
  19. crozcat

    crozcat Forum Resident

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    I compiled these lists a few years ago - still valid, I think, until the forthcoming release:

    Jimi Hendrix - studio recordings October 1968 - May 1969

    Jimi Hendrix - studio recordings August 1969 - August 1970

    Looking forward to Both Sides of the Sky - there´s always some great unheard tracks/versions on the EH studio releases! :righton:
     
  20. Roberto899

    Roberto899 Forum Resident

    @prognastycator

    I have been thinking about doing this on my own. Thanks for these great lists.
     
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  21. cryingbluerain

    cryingbluerain Well-Known Member

    Eddie Kramer Mojo Interview 2010. Just a brief comment. In most interviews he doesn't seem to like to talk about "Black Gold" or when the Royal Albert Hall film is coming out.
    MOJO: Much has been made of the Black Gold tape by Hendrix aficionados.
    Eddie Kramer: Oy vay. It's not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. What's more important is what's coming up in the future.

    BTW, Hendrix superfan Steven Robey was one of the few people who heard the Black Gold tapes in their entirety after Mitch Mitchell discovered them in his archives. He describes the contents in the book Black Gold: The Lost Archives Of Jimi Hendrix.
    Here's what he wrote is on the tapes:
    THE BLACK GOLD TAPES (Home recordings from Mid-1969 to Spring 1970)
    TAPE 1: Ideas for LP

    Side A: Suite: Black Gold
    Suddenly November Morning/Drifting (available on West Coast Seattle Boy), Captain Midnight, 1201, Local Commotion, Local Commotion 2nd Part, Here Comes Black Gold, Black Gold, Stepping Stone, Little Red Velvet Room.

    Side B:
    The Jungle Is Waiting, Send My Love To Joan Of Arc, God Bless The Day, Black Gold, Machine Gun, Here Comes Black Gold, Trash Man, Astro Man, 2nd part of Astro Man, I’ve Got No Place To Go.

    TAPE 2
    Side A: Elect Laster Blue Rock GPDS No. 1 Rough Ideas
    Message To Universe, Whisper In Your Ear, Unknown Song, Message To Love, Bolero, Here Comes The Sun, Unknown Song.

    Side B: Rough Ideas, No. II
    Restless Kiss, Spanish Riff, Machine Gun, Valleys Of Neptune, Machine Gun.

    TAPE 3
    Side A: Universe L.A., Unknown Song, Message To Love, Unknown Song, Sunshine Of Your Love.

    Side B: Spanish Riff, Cherokee Mist, Various Rhythms, Beginnings.

    TAPE 4 Side A:
    Please Help Us God, Meet Me In The Country, Astro Man, This Little Boy, Blues, Spanish Riff, Ride Across.

    Side B: Astro Man, Instrumental Solo, I’m A Man, Blues.

     
  22. fredhammersmith

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    Fantastic
    Great work. Many many thanks!
     
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  23. cryingbluerain

    cryingbluerain Well-Known Member

    That "Ultimate Hendrix" book is like the Hendrix Bible.
    It lists every studio & live track they have in the vaults. Written by John McDermott, the co-producer on all these albums and has has heard the actual recordings.
    Looking at the studio sessions, it really appears like after this they don't have any brand new songs left to release. They could keep releasing outtakes until the end of time but I doubt Sony or the fans would approve. There's several soundboard live recordings they could put out and a ton of home demos. They obviously must have some decent product left or Sony Legacy wouldn't have renewed their contract.
     
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  24. Electric Ladyland Deluxe Edition (Jan.-Sept., 1968)

    And The Gods Made Love
    Have You Ever Been (To Electric Ladyland)
    Cross Town Traffic
    Voodoo Chile
    Little Miss Strange
    Long Hot Summer Night
    Come On (Part I)
    Gypsy Eyes
    The Burning Of The Midnight Lamp
    Rainy Day, Dream Away
    1983... (A Merman I Should Turn To Be)
    Moon, Turn The Tides... Gently, Gently Away
    Still Raining, Still Dreaming
    House Burning Down
    All Along The Watchtower
    Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)

    From the "Purple Box"
    Sweet Angel
    Somewhere
    (Have You Ever Been To) Electric Ladyland (take 3)
    Gypsy Eyes (alt. version)
    Room Full Of Mirrors (demo)

    From the West Coast Seattle Boy box
    Tears of Rage (demo)
    Hear My Train A Comin' (demo)
    1983 (A Merman I should Turn To Be) (demo)
    Long Hot Summer Night (demo)
    My Friend (demo)
    Angel (demo)

    From South Saturn Delta
    South Saturn Delta
    Tax Free
    All Along The Watchtower
    Sweet Angel


    From Cry Of Love / First Rays
    My Friend

    From People Hell and Angels
    Somewhere (Frankenstein version)
    Inside Out

    Associated BBC Tracks (mono / fake stereo)
    Recorded Jan. 4, 1969
    Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
    Hey Joe / breakdown/ Sunshine of Your Love

    Associated Live Tracks

    Miami Pop Festival, May 18, 1968
    Hey Joe
    Foxey Lady
    Tax Free
    Fire
    Hear My Train A Comin'
    I Don't Live Today
    Red House
    Purple Haze
    Foxey Lady

    Winterland Selections (Oct. 10 - 12, 1968) -pick your favorite performances
    Tax Free
    Lover Man
    Sunshine Of Your Love
    Killing Floor
    Star Spangled Banner
    Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
    Like A Rolling Stone
    Spanish Castle Magic
    Red House
    Manic Depression
    Little Wing
    Wild Thing
    Are You Experienced?
    Purple Haze
    Foxey Lady
     

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