Jimmy Page says previously unheard Led Zeppelin music will be released for band's 50th anniversary

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  1. Mook

    Mook Forum Resident

    Was the Yadbirds '68 gig recorded on a multitrack?
     
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  2. RockDude4492

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    Yes, it was recorded to 3-track by a guy who had never recorded a rock band before
     
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  3. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    All of dyalns 1966 multitracks were recorded on 3 track by guys that never recorded a live rock band either. They recorded 3 shows. Sheffield was the first of 3 and they totally bothed it and thats why they put the sheffield sb tape on the box set and not the multitrack
     
  4. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I think the japan tapes could be made to sound great with modern technology. Considering Dylan's 1966 multis were done on 3 track and he had 6 instruments on stage plus a vocal mike and crowd Mic so some if not all instruments would be sharing tracks with other instruments so a lot of stuff would have to mixed down on the spot and with engineers with no real experience recording live rock and despite not being perfect I think they did wonders with those recordings on the dylan live box set all things considered.
     
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  5. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I would love unedited releases myself but sadly jimmy does not gear his live releases towards us hardcore fans the majority of the main stream zeppelin audience does not listen to zep boots. I know lots of zep fans who say zep is their number 1 but if i play them sb tapes they get turned off I think they are crazy myself. But a lot of people don t know about plants vocal problems and pages decline so it can be shocking for some zep needs to do a sb bootleg series for us hardcore fans and give us early shows that don t circulate. Jimmy worries about hurting the zep myth and legacy by exposing their on stage weaknesses in the eyes of people that only listen to official stuff. That's why he needs to due mainstream releases for the regulars and a boot series for the hardcore.
     
  6. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    Page could capitalize on soundboard releases centered around the 70 to 72 era. Very little circulates in sb quality for those years and the performances have no real negatives with many of them mind blowing and plants voice is on great shape. I think there is probably a lot of stuff page would love to release but he has to get Robert and Jon to agree and Robert seems difficult in that regard. I can understand him not wanting to reunite but give the fans something and let jimmy release stuff. I find it telling that Robert except for a DVD or two has never released a solo live record those early 80s plant sb tapes are killer and have him in amazing live voice the king biscuit tape is fantastic.
     
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  7. Duckman

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    Undoubtedly he DID record some of these club dates. And to be honest, it would be not much more cumbersome to wheel in a mobile unit in -let's say- the Marquee or Mothers, than the L.A Forum. The acoustics are much better (Montreux Casino, Southampton refectory, Paris Theatre,...)
     
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  8. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the upcoming copy right expiration could lead to some soundboard releases each years. 2020 and 2021 could be interesting.
     
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  9. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I would love to know when zep started recording of the board on a nightly basis or if they did from the very beginning. There are those Fillmore boards from early 69 . I wonder if they are band recordings or done by the Fillmore crew. It seemed by at least 1973 board recordings were done nightly and at least occasionally in 71
     
  10. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    There was a rumor that one of the 1973 Paris shows was recorded for a radio broadcast but afterwards grant confiscated the tapes and denied permission for the broadcast so that would be a release quality show and the 2 of those shows were great with plant in strong voice.
     
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  11. DrBeatle

    DrBeatle The Rock and Roll Chemist

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    Anything recorded at the Fillmore East or West, or Winterland, have nothing to do with Led Zeppelin. Those were because of Bill Graham.
     
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  12. WonkyWilly

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    I'm not sure if any of the board tapes had anything to do with Zeppelin. The tapes post-1971 were recorded and kept by their hired sound crew.
     
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  13. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    Southampton 71 refectory gig would be a strong candidate for an unknown multi track. They recorded there on 1973 and that could be because they had a good experience recording there in 1971 but then again why would he consider the 73 tape for release if he had the 71 tape . The marquee would would be another strong candidate you would think a zep live at the marquee release would be very appealing to page. Page must have soundboards for these shows at the very least. Those Irish shows were amazing too. Another live recording with plant still at the top of his upper range would be a real treat.
     
  14. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    There must be more Fillmore recordings that don t circulate other then the 2 we have. As long as i have you on a official release is high on my wish list those Fillmore boards are great sounding . There are a couple of Fillmore tapes of van Morrison from 1970 with true stereo mixes and not just foh mixes that are as good or better then many multitracks.
     
  15. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I thought the board tapes were recorded by show co at the band's request they may have made copies but many soundboards from 1973 and 1980 were stolen from pages house. Show co may have kept copies but page would have demanded copies. Page referred to the soundboard tapes as kind of his diary. Page did have no recording clauses . There are many stories of grant confiscating tapes
     
  16. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    Zeppelin owned a revox reel to reel that used to make board recordings but Show co may have had their own unit running as well either authorized or unauthorized. The 75 soundboards are thought to be leaked by Show co ex staff. And sound a lot better the n the 1973 boards stolen from pages home so could there be to sets of board tapes from different machines?
     
  17. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I wish zeppelin recorded their boards like the dead did with a person who's sole job was to record the board tapes from a separate feed independent of the foh feed for a proper balanced and true stereo mix . Those greatful dead betty boards are marvelous and beautiful sounding tapes.
     
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  18. PacificOceanBlue

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    It would be worse knowing such fine recordings were in the vaults with no chance for an official release.
     
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  19. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    I just read that show co started doing sound for zeppelin full time in the summer of 1970 they had used them once on the spring 1970 Dallas show. And robert was so impressed he said lets hire them for our future tours. So the nightly soundboard recording could have started then. So any boards prior to mid 1970 could be very few.
     
  20. Adam Ryan Watson.

    Adam Ryan Watson. Well-Known Member

    Very sad indeed I would take those early boards over any later multitrack hop some more boards are out there in other hands
     
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  21. misteranderson

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    Amazing what they were able to do with it, and how ballsy it sounds. I'm mystified by how real the drums are, though they're not heavy or out front. They just have a very natural sound.
     
  22. WonkyWilly

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    Not sure how true that is. I always thought it was one of those speculative rumours. I would like to see confirmation from Page that those tapes were indeed stolen.

    I was told that Show Co. recorded exclusively on cassette with a badly calibrated deck. There are pictures of the actual deck in action during a Zep gig.
     
  23. Sixpence

    Sixpence Zeppelin Fan

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    All of the 1980 tour bootlegs were direct result of someone stealing them from Jimmy Page. He has confirmed this. He said he knows who it is but wouldn't say. Some speculate it was an "ex-wife".
     
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  24. misteranderson

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    Yeah, there was a theft -- I've read elsewhere that Jimmy was away and the theft was by people who were housesitting for him.

    The deck Showco used was a Nakamichi 550. Wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't calibrated, given the general chaos around Zeppelin tours.

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  25. sons of nothing

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    Considering "new" soundboards pop up every few years, most recently the Seattle show from 75, I'm willing to bet that there are unknown live shows in the vault that are ripe for releasing. I'm too lazy to look, but what shows don't have any known circulating tape(s)? Is Luis Rey here??
     
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