John Mayall w/ Peter Green - Live Recordings from Early 1967

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by prof. stoned, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. prof. stoned

    prof. stoned Forum Member Thread Starter

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    Netherlands
    I stumbled upon this recently, after remembering reading an interview about this years ago:

    http://www.johntherevelator.nl/history/peter_green_


    These are the linernotes of 5CD boxset that Tom Huisen (the taper) wanted to release himself in 2009. But as off today, this has not happened. No reason was given but apparently both Mayall's & Green's management objected or could not come to terms. Amazingly, these tapes sound fantastic for an audience recording this old. They easily outdo the official bootlegs of this era (The Diary of a band & Primal Solo's). I'm not one to dig into old audience tapes with C- sound, but I'd be all over this. Five complete sets, featuring both Aynsley Dunbar and Mick Fleetwood and of course John McVie.

    Have a listen for yourself, there is a generous amount of samples which give you a pretty good idea:
    http://www.johntherevelator.nl/discografie.php?id=1d0c951afcda7000fd07e553678da424&item_id=43d801bce942a02616495f99f96260a3

    I really hope this will see the light of day sometime. I would be a crime against humanity if it didn't. Apart from some BBC recordings, the official live albums live album, there are no listenable Mayall live recordings from the 60's as far as I know, and certainly none with P.G.

    Some pictures too:
    http://www.johntherevelator.nl/foto.php?id=258fc490a5523c9d5fd03bca7a4f9ff6&item_id=d06c660da66dd6e02e02ed6f8c8c02ac

    Mayall:
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    Greeny:
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    The to-be-famous rhythm section:
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  2. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

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    Seattle
    Dang! I've been listening to it via the link and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
    Dang!
     
  3. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

    Location:
    Marple, PA, USA
    That is a bloody sin. Man, Green is on fire.
     
  4. Edgard Varese

    Edgard Varese Royale with Cheese

    Jaw-droppingly good. Listen to how he eschews the repetitive lines most of his contemporaries would have slathered all over these songs. He uses notes sparingly, until he needs just that expressive push, and then they tumble out in a torrent.

    Can you tell I rate him pretty highly? :D
     
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  5. shepherdfan

    shepherdfan Forum Resident

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    Eugene, OR
    O.k., somebody has to track down all parties involved and work something out. This stuff is too valuable to be sitting gathering dust somewhere. Get this material released! Now! I would buy this pronto.
     
  6. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    apparently it is available. you have to buy another item to get it. i wonder if this guy really has the rights to include it with the sale of his cd?

    PETER GREEN MARQUEE TAPE 1967 NOW AVAILABLE

    The Marquee tape 27/04/1967 with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers featuring Peter Green is now ready for download.

    If you buy the digi-sleeve package album ‘Underway’ by John the Revelator,

    you get an immediate free bonus download of the Marquee tape.

    For Peter Green fans only! Not for commercial use!

    http://johntherevelator.bandcamp.com/

    New album from John the Revelator comes in a high quality digi sleeve pack with extensive booklet, pictures and sleeve notes.
    Art direction by the televisedwar.nl;
    photography by Yara van der Velden.

    Also includes immediate download of 10-track album in your choice of 320k mp3, FLAC, or just about any other format you could possibly desire.

    For all the Peter Green fans in the world we have great news. The Marquee tape April 1967 featuring Peter Green is now available!!
    If you buy the digi-sleeve package album ‘Underway’ you get an immediate free bonus download of the Marquee tape including booklet, back-and inlay cover, CD label.
     
  7. JRF

    JRF Well-Known Member

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    The Deep South
    I would buy this without hesitation.
     
  8. shepherdfan

    shepherdfan Forum Resident

    Location:
    Eugene, OR
    He needs to make this a separate release. He's holding people back doing it this way.
     
  9. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Forum Resident

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    Grantham, NH
    Wow that TONE.
     
  10. JRF

    JRF Well-Known Member

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    The Deep South
    I agree, I listened to the john the revelator samples and just not that interested in buying it, but the Peter Green I would.
     
  11. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

    Location:
    Seattle
    Maybe look at it as buying the Peter Green, and the Revelator is free?
     
  12. bluesbro

    bluesbro Forum Hall of Shame

    Location:
    DC
    I smell lawsuit
     
  13. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    that was my thought too. it's amazing he has several shows too. i wonder who else he might have recorded back then.
     
  14. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Cowboys are the only ones who stay in tune anyway!

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    Europe
    I doubt it, its his recordings isn't it? anyway he is British, would Peter Green and Co want to go down the legal route, i am sure he has worked out any differences 'with a gentleman's agreement' and that is why he can only sell them the way he has, i get the impression from the website that he was 'part of that crowd' of that time and it is perfectly legit ?

    IMO it is probally down to Peter Green's generosity to a fellow less succesful, but still very talented fellow musician. but who knows?
     
  15. dino77

    dino77 Forum Resident

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    Europe

    Green's business affairs are handled quite strictly. The lawyers have stopped many releases before.
     
  16. bluesbro

    bluesbro Forum Hall of Shame

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    DC
    :confused:
     
  17. tappioha

    tappioha Active Member

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    Finland
    Oh my. Oh well!
     
  18. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Cowboys are the only ones who stay in tune anyway!

    Location:
    Europe
    I don't doubt that, but these recordings were made in the late 1960's, that may make them exempt, but i don't know or care about that :)
     
  19. cjmiller

    cjmiller Member

    On John the Revelator site they make an effort to describe the release as non-commercial and only include it as a download with the purchase of their own CD. I’m not sure if this protects them from legal ramifications but I suspect it might go some distance towards mitigating an action.

    From their site (my bold):
    “For all the Peter Green fans in the world we have great news. The Marquee tape April 1967 featuring Peter Green is now available!!
    If you buy the digi-sleeve package album ‘Underway’ you get an immediate free bonus download of the Marquee tape including booklet, back-and inlay cover, CD label.
    For Peter Green fans only! Not for commercial use.”

    Anyway enough about legal speculation. I think RaunchnRoll has the right of it, consider it a Peter Green/Mayall purchase which includes a free John the Revelator CD.

    I just bought it and I’m listening to it now on cheap computer speakers. Green really is on fire! He plays with incredible passion and aggression. A number of songs are extended guitar workouts and show a side of his playing I've rarely heard. Several of his solos build to incendiary levels.

    At first blush and on my cheap speakers, the quality seems fine for an amateur recording, better than many I have heard. My thoughts may change when I hear it on my better system. Levels can be a little inconsistent between songs and at times, cymbals are a bit in your face. Overall the instruments are reasonably balanced, Mayall’s vocals are a little recessed but Greens guitar is out front and his Les Paul/Marshall tone is … well really, one of the greatest tones in guitardom.

    It’s a very high energy set, it’s unfortunate that there isn’t more live material from the Bluesbreakers period. Opinions may vary, but for me it is a piece of history definitely worth the purchase.
     
  20. aliasrobert

    aliasrobert New Member

    Link is dead, but would love to hear this.
    Anybody ?
     
  21. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Music Appreciator

    Location:
    Eastern Iowa
    I'd buy this in a heartbeat.
     
  22. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

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    clifton park,ny
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  23. BKarloff

    BKarloff Well-Known Member

    Location:
    UK
    Come on - if John Mayall's people are reading this - pull your fingers out.
    You issued the poor sounding Historic Live Shows Vols 1-3 a couple of years back and while I'm happy to own them they are not a patch on this Green stuff.
    Surely someone can make this happen?
     
  24. granola

    granola Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Santa Cruz, CA
    John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers - Live In ’67 (4/21)

    In 1967, before there was a Fleetwood Mac, Peter Green, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood were John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. The four musicians were only together for three months, which makes it even more remarkable that a staunch fan from Holland was able to sneak a one channel reel to reel tape recorder into five London clubs and capture this exciting glimpse into music history. For almost fifty years these tapes have remained unheard until John recently got them and began restoring them with the technical assistance of Eric Corne of Forty Below Records. Corne adds ''While the source recording was very rough and the final result is certainly not hi-fidelity, it does succeed in allowing us to hear how spectacular these performances are.’'

    1. All Your Love
    2. Brand New Start
    3. Double Trouble
    4. Streamline
    5. Have You Ever Loved A Woman
    6. Looking Back
    7. So Many Roads
    8. Hi Heel Sneakers
    9. I Can't Quit You Baby
    10. The Stumble
    11. Some Day After Awhile
    12. San-Ho-Zay
    13. Stormy Monday

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T73ATC0

    (Ref.) http://ericcornemusic.com
    (Ref.) http://fortybelowrecords.com
     
  25. shepherdfan

    shepherdfan Forum Resident

    Location:
    Eugene, OR
    granola,
    Many thanks for this.
     

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