King Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King" on CD

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by FrontalLobe, Mar 9, 2012.

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Which CD version of King Crimson's "ITCOTCK" sounds best?

  1. 1999 30th Anniversary Edition ("Caroline" label)

    29.5%
  2. 2004 remaster ("Discipline Us" label)

    70.5%
  1. FrontalLobe

    FrontalLobe New Member

    I have no interest in box sets or bonus tracks. Redbook CD only, please. Thank you for voting.
  2. HeavyDistortion

    HeavyDistortion Active Member

    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    It's not listed in your poll, but I would vote for the original EG CD.



    Ed Hurdle
    HeavyDistortion
  3. noname74

    noname74 somewhere between want it and got it.

    Location:
    Canada
    You've skipped way too many other options.
  4. Laservampire

    Laservampire (╯°□°)╯︵ ןıo ǝʞɐus

    2004 "Original Master Edition" all the way.

    The 1999 edition has the first side mastered from a 2nd gen copy of the master tape (side 2 is from the master)

    The 2004 edition has the first side mastered from the original uncrossfaded mixdown tapes, which back in the day had to be bounced to another tape to crossfade them (the original master)

    Since the crossfading can be done digitally these days, on the 2004 edition side one is a whole generation better than even the original UK pressing.
  5. yamfox

    yamfox Active Member

    Location:
    USA
    On CD it's 2004 or bust, but vinyl is still the best option.
  6. texron

    texron Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Texas USA
    ^^^This
  7. yasujiro

    yasujiro Well-Known Member

    Location:
    tokyo
    My vote goes to 32VD.
  8. FrontalLobe

    FrontalLobe New Member

    Wow, that surprises me. I had that one but flung it into the trash can as soon as I bought and heard the 30th Anniversary edition (which I haven't owned in years). No offense intended as we all have our preferences.
  9. FrontalLobe

    FrontalLobe New Member

    This is great information. I love when someone explains why they feel a certain version sounds better than another.

    Is this the 2004 "OME" which you favor?

    http://www.amazon.com/In-Court-Crimson-King/dp/B00065MDRW/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1331330513&sr=1-1
  10. Tangledupinblue

    Tangledupinblue Forum Resident

    Location:
    London, UK
    Well I was wondering why you didn't include the 40th anniversary edition, this post explains why.

    Shame the much improved version of Moonchild only appears on that box set...
  11. FrontalLobe

    FrontalLobe New Member

    Subquestion: why is this album always on a different label when a new CD comes out?
  12. Laservampire

    Laservampire (╯°□°)╯︵ ןıo ǝʞɐus

  13. FrontalLobe

    FrontalLobe New Member

    Thanks! I'm on it.
  14. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

    Location:
    Hyannis Ma
    Agreed. When Fripp and Co. finally got hold of the master for both sides, the sound quality spoke for itself. A near perfect record now restored.

    Finding a pinkie Island or a pink rim with the original cut is a treasure.
  15. yesstiles

    yesstiles Forum Resident

    The original pre-1989 "Marketed By Jem Records Inc" cd on EG sounds the best.
  16. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

  17. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk Arizona Son

    Location:
    Phoenix
    Correct, the best IMHO, is not an available option.
  18. simon-wagstaff

    simon-wagstaff Well-Known Member

    The restoration on the DVD-A disc is a revelation. Fripp was able to go back to the original tracks, not the mix-downs, removing one or more generations of tape copy. This is one of those discs that makes it worthwhile to go out and spend 50-100 bucks on a used DVD-A/SACD player, no need to be myopic.
  19. butch

    butch Active Member

    Location:
    west islip,ny
    The original EG CD should have been included even though its sounds like a a 4th generation LP master was used! :winkgrin:

    Good call. That should have been included as well. It's interesting to hear the album in such a new light.
  20. HeavyDistortion

    HeavyDistortion Active Member

    Location:
    Baltimore, MD
    If you read the posts in this entire thread, you will see that others agree with me as well. The tape source used for the transfer may not have been the best, but to me, the original EG mastering is much warmer and smoother than any of the later CD issues. That being said, my favorite version of "In The Court Of The Crimson King" is my original German Island LP.


    Ed Hurdle
    HeavyDistortion
  21. *Zod*

    *Zod* Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Connecticut, USA
    why is the 2010 Steve Wilson version not listed? Disc 1 of the 2 disc set is a redbook CD. IMO, a 2 disc set hardly constitutes a box set.
  22. Tank

    Tank New Member

    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    Which is another vote for the EG, since I believe it has been confirmed to be the same.

    I have the 32VD and like it, but I also like the 30th.
  23. Tank

    Tank New Member

    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    I like Wilson's version. But it is a remix. Maybe we're dealing with the original mix only?

    I don't think I'd rank it above the options listed anyway, although that 2004 versions is really quite bright to my ears, so it might be better than that. I haven't compared them directly.
  24. moops

    moops Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Geebung, Australia
    It is a remix and a good one at that, I think it's tops. :thumbsup:
  25. ShawnX

    ShawnX Forum Resident

    Location:
    MI
    That's the one.:righton:

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