KISS: The Songs 1974-2012

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by GodShifter, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident

    Can't say I agree with you here, I think Love Gun has a few better songs (2) but the lows are far more frequent and reach garbage level. This is another case where mgmt. screwed up by pushing these guys too hard, pumping out 20 songs a year for guys with little theoretical background is asking for trouble. Given the chance and hindsight being what it is I would've managed KISS in a different manner but hey what's done is done. Oh yeah and HITS? the stink off that record is way worse than anything they put out in the 70's, talk about banking the advance money and running back to Beverly Hills.....
     
  2. Exile On My Street

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    I think about this often, how much material these guys were pumping out in such a short span of time. And while no two people would ever agree on which ten songs to choose, a record combining the best of RaRO with LG would be a pretty excellent record indeed. Even for 4 guys, pumping out two records a year of top shelf stuff is a difficult task so when assessing songs, I do cut them a little leeway there. But still, LG was the first album where the cracks really began showing. More on that later this week.
     
  3. Deuce66

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    Yeah but if you survey 500 fans the cream rises to the top.

    I have my re-worked 70's KISS CD-R catalog and a best of those two albums is a solid 5 star + affair. Take the 12 best keep it under 42 minutes in length - stellar. I know what's making it off RnR Over
    I Want You - Take Me - Calling (DP Version) - Mr.Speed - Hard Luck - Makin'L. The leftovers become potential b-sides for 45's, no doubt this would help sales.
     
  4. GodShifter

    GodShifter Overfloater® Thread Starter

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    Yeah, but now I want to know! :D

    I wasn't really that "young" when I got into rock music. I listened to the radio a lot and bought some 45's here and there (I recorded a lot of stuff off the radio onto my tape recorder and would listen to that over and over) but it wasn't until I was 11 and asked for LG for my birthday because I had heard "Christeen Sixteen" so much on the radio. So LG was officially my first rock album. I went crazy after that!
     
  5. Combination

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    I know there's one Q&A session during the '95 convention where a guy flat out asked Paul why "Mr. Speed" was never a single! Paul seemed a little embarrassed.
     
  6. Rose River Bear

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    The first record I ever bought was the 45 of Underwater by The Frogmen in 1961.
    The first album I bought was Walk, Don't Run by The Ventures also in 1961.
    They are long gone unfortunately. I loved Surf Music even after the Beatles but not as much.
     
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  7. GodShifter

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    So is the song a day still working for everyone? I think, at this point, I've done at least 40 songs in a row without missing a day. I intend to keep it up even though I'll be traveling later this week. If there are people that want me to slow down I will, but I like keeping this pace. It keeps me disciplined.
     
  8. RMP1967

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    And that's why we call you "Mr. Speed." The pace is great and kudos for keeping this thing on track.
     
  9. imag&nos

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    Here's the thing - RNR Over is consistent to a fault, but Love Gun is just a more exciting album. If it had nothing but I Stole Your Love and the title track, it'd be a top 3 KISS album, but it has so much more. Have Love Will Travel is one of the best songs ever by anyone combining acoustic and electric guitars. The whole album just works.

    Just so no one gets the wrong impression that there's anything about RNR Over that is not awesome - there isn't.
     
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  10. GodShifter

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    "Have Love Will Travel" is not on LG. Do you mean "Got Love for Sale"?

    Edit: yes, of course you do. As a young kid I always thought the lyric was "High, low in trouble" (yes, I'm stupid)
     
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  11. imag&nos

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    That's the one. I tend to call songs by what's repeated in the chorus, sometimes to hilarious effect.
     
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  12. Deuce66

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    I think there's some kind of back story to this song and no one's talking.

    Interesting unplugged cover version.

     
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  13. imag&nos

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    Don't reach any premature conclusions. We don't want the thread to move too fast.
     
  14. moops

    moops Forum Resident

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    I wouldn't worry about it, don't over-think it.
    My first KISS album was ALIVE II. As a kid I would sit there and look at the gatefold and the booklet as I listened to that record, it was magical.
    These days there's questions over how it's a bit touched up and who actually played what etc, etc ....... but I don't care at all about that.
    When I play it, I get the same rush as I did when I first bought it. It's still a kick-ass live album for me.
    It's how the music makes you feel. If you can get that from a record still, treasure it.
    If RARO connects man, don't fight it .......'cause you won't win !

    :edthumbs:
     
  15. SizzleVonSizzleton

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    This pace is great for me. Every day I'm thinking about tomorrow's song, it's damn near getting out of hand.

    Thanks for all the work.:)
     
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  16. moops

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    I'm cool, your discipline is our discipline ( does that even make sense ? ).
    Although I've dropped the ball a couple of times and had to catch up, a song a day keeps it fresh.
    But if you need to throw an extra day in here or there later in the week, go for it.
     
  17. dadonred

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    Ace's was better.
     
  18. dadonred

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    Thanks man. Whatever you need to do is fine with me. I appreciate your sharing!
     
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  19. dadonred

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    Elton John's Greatest Hits 1974 was my first album owned (gift from my sister). I'm not sure it was in '74 though. My first album purchased was Destroyer, in fact. But my first rock albums enjoyed were my sister's (when she wasn't home): Aerosmith (s/t), Toys in the Attic, Alice Cooper Welcome to my Nightmare, Foreigner (s/t) and the Eagles Greatest Hits. (Soon to be followed by Hotel California). Oh, and REO Speedwagon, Live, you get what you play for and Styx Grand Illusion. She raised me right!

    The first 45 I liked was another sister: Shirley Purley (recorded well before my time):
     
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  20. Diamond Star Halo

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    The first albums I remember listening to religiously at 3 years of age were The Guess Who - 20 Greatest Hits and The Eagles - Greatest 1971-75.

    My first purchase was Michael Jackson - Thriller, at age 7, on vinyl.

    My first rock purchase was The Beatles - 20 Greatest Hits cassette at age 9. From there I got the Beatles discography, then The Who, followed by The Stones.

    I got my first Kiss album at age 14. Smashes Thrashes and Hits. The rest is Kisstory......
     
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  21. moops

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    MR. SPEED
    Is it simply because this follows LEALE that this sounds so fresh ? That might work in it's favor, but it gets a big tick purely because it just finds it's groove from the first note, our guys are smart enough to realise that it doesn't need to be screwed with and they just ride it. As mentioned, that guitar riff and tone are just about perfect in conjuring this loose, infectious vibe that you can't help but move some part of your anatomy to.
    The whole band are on board for it and no-one overplays their hand 'cause they know that it's not required. Gene sounds like he's having a blast on the bass.
    I especially get the wiggle on in the section starting at 1:55 through to 2:40 ..... the solo through to the "I don't care !" from Paul after which they just cruise-control that groove until the vocal returns. It's tasty !
     
  22. SizzleVonSizzleton

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    Bob Kulick gives you a 'dislike'.

    :D
     
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  23. SizzleVonSizzleton

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    You know how I know this thread has gotten completely out of hand for me? Today I listened to a couple of Megadeth songs at random and there's a circular riff in Tornado of Souls at about 9 seconds in. And I was thinking it sounded like the riff in Mr. Speed. Seriously.:yikes:
     
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  24. Haggis Wampovich

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    I think the pace is great. We've managed a few sidebars here and there as well. So far so good
     
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  25. Rose River Bear

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    Oh so because you are traveling is an excuse to miss a day? You may not know it but there is something called a laptop?
    Just kidding of course.
    I have to say that there are only a handful of SH members that could keep this thread moving so hot considering most members opinion of this band. You are one of those few that can make it interesting and a learning experience. Everyone else has been great as well.
    Your thread has made me forget about finishing my Humble Pie thread but it has been worth it.
    Great job!
     

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