Kraftwerk 2004 The Catalogue Sound quality compared to original Cd's

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Maidenpriest, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. Theadmans

    Theadmans Forum Resident

    ....Well finally found time to listen to my German Sanyo Japan pressed Die Mensch Maschine CD tonight. There is NO drop out at 2.12-2.14 on Spacelab on my CD.

    Have to say what a fine sounding CD this is ! Remember feeling slightly disappointed by the sound compared to vinyl back in 1986 when I bought the disc. However, at the time I was using a Phillips 14 Bit CD player. Now from a Raspberry Pi Wolfson Audio Card playing FLAC via SqueezePlug into a Beresford Caiman SEG DAC via a highly modified Musical Fidelity X10D tube buffer it sounds superb. The disc and all inlays in it's original Jewel Case is in entirely Mint Condition - just like the day I bought it over 30 years ago !
     
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  2. Front 242 Addict

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    Thank you Theadmans for sharing your impression regarding the sound and regarding the glitch.
    musically it's a fantastic album, I love all the tracks on the album but Neon lights it's my favorite track, such an amazing song , listen to the song it's like swimming in a pool of mesmerizing / beautiful sounds , the sounds in the song are just gorgeous and glorious.
     
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  3. Theadmans

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    ..well yes Front 242 Addict - you are totally right - Neon Lights (originally issued in Luminous Green Vinyl) sounds so "Luminous" here on this CD it kills me every time! I think this is yet another example of how early CDs sounded superb all along - but were hampered by the quality of CD Players at the time. Today with modern equipment they often sound better than todays remasters.
     
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  4. albertop

    albertop Well-Known Member

    A few months ago, @The_Windmill suggested to start a new "Kraftwerk All Albums Comparison Thread" here. Maybe something like the Genesis - Early CD versions thread?
    I am happy to take up the challenge (as mentioned here). It seems there's already a lot of information to process from this thread, but if you have more data please let me know :)
     
  5. albertop

    albertop Well-Known Member

    New thread available: Kraftwerk – Early CD versions thread (pre-2009 remasters)
     
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  6. Yost

    Yost Forum Resident

    Does anybody know if the Japanese CP21 also has the glitches mentioned earlier in this thread?
     
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  7. Front 242 Addict

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    I am also curious to know the answer for that.
     
  8. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    @Yost

    Is your 1987 disc made in the UK with matrix AR @ 2 or @ 1

    Ones I have heard with glitches are all pressed in the Netherlands with @ 3
     
  9. Yost

    Yost Forum Resident

    Mine is an @2.
     
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  10. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    There is a video on youtube which seems to play without the Spacelab glitch (also I do not see them in the waveform) and images appear to show the disc Made in the UK with AR @ 2 ?

    Link To the vid, see / hear what you think;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zbxZftGF4

    Any other glitches may be the upload or youtube :)
     
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  11. Yost

    Yost Forum Resident

    Yep, strange. I have a Made in UK disc too. Really the only difference is that the disc on the video looks like a "@ 2 +6 + 7+" and mine is a "@ 2 +6 +22+". So mine is probably a bit younger. Mine definitely has the glitches, I checked by listening to the disc itself, instead of to the rips like I did before.
     
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  12. Yost

    Yost Forum Resident

    I almost would have been able to check it myself as I bid on an CP21 on eBay. Luckily someone else overbid me. Afterwards I was thinking, "do I really need a different disc because of 3 glitches?". :help:
     
  13. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    If the price was right who wouldn’t take a chance, although...

    There is a Youtube upload of a 1985 Japanese Vinyl Reissue of The Man Machine which has the glitches.

    Timings approx 8.28mins for the main Spacelab glitch and 20.50mins for The Model glitch.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOuZkQjypEM
     
  14. Billy Infinity

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    Since virtually every Kraftwerk thread discussing The Mix has been closed, I thought I'd pose the question here - not completely related to the 2004 promo box, but more to do with the original CD vs the 2009 remaster.

    "Dentaku" on The Mix seems to have a glitch at 3:05 - this is specific to the 2009 remaster. I don't hear this skip/glitch on the 1991 original. Does anyone else hear this?
     
  15. jkm

    jkm The Medium is the Massage

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    Quick question: How can I tell which CDs I have. They only say Man Machine (0777 7 46039 2 8), 1978, and Computer World (CD 3549) 1981.

    Thanks.
     
  16. Yost

    Yost Forum Resident

    Research on Discogs.com and check matrix numbers and other identifiers on your discs.
     
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