Led Zeppelin - D'yer Maker

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  1. mj_patrick

    mj_patrick Senior Member

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    One of my favorite Zep songs. When I first started discovering the band I first liked "Rock and Roll", "Black Dog" and a little later, "D'yer Mak'er" was the next song of theirs that really turned me on.

    I don't care if the song is a laugh! It's great! They did heavy reggae well here. Every band member's part is well done and Bonham just pounded the **** out of his drums.

    I just learned about the "Jamaica" pronunciation yesterday as well...
     
  2. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

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    I do like the flip side- The Crunge.
     
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  3. four sticks

    four sticks Senior Member

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    I've only come to enjoy Kashmir in the last few years. It still doesn't crack my LZ top 10 though.
     
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  4. Royce

    Royce Senior Member

    I always thought it was English Pub slang as in: Hey mate, nice looking bird you had here last night...D'yer Maker? (Did you make her?)
     
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  5. Black Widow

    Black Widow Forum Resident

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    What's the similarity you're suggesting -- both are examples of British blues/rock musicians doing piss poor interpretations of reggae? No arguements here! :D Perhaps even more disconcerting though, is that both Zeppelin & Clapton produced far-bigger aural turds than DM & ISTS during their careers.
     
  6. Manalishi

    Manalishi With the 2-pronged crown

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    I finally heard the correct pronunciation years ago in a Robert Plant interview. Now, I'm working on "Bron-Y-Aur" which I hear is near the village of Machynlleth.
     
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  7. mojo525

    mojo525 Music Accumulator

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    In one of those interview discs, Plant or Page describes hearing Dee Dee Warwick's "Foolish Fool" on the radio and wanting to duplicate that song's drum sound.
    You definitely can hear the influence. It's a cool song on it's own merits. It's one of those I keep looking for on my crate-dives.
     
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  8. rcsrich

    rcsrich Forum Resident

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    Love when you can hear the drum pedal squeaks just like I love hearing the bass make the snare rattle during recordings. :)
     
  9. Jerquee

    Jerquee Take this, brother, may it serve you well.

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    I've heard it's pronounced Bron-rahr but then Plant pronounces it Bron-a-ry-ah during one of the Earl's Court shows in 1975, so who knows?

     
  10. tribby2001

    tribby2001 Forum Resident

    Think Monty Python! :biglaugh:

     
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  11. onionmaster

    onionmaster Tropical new waver from the future

    I agree that Clapton's cover of I Shot The Sheriff is lame, and I'd never listen to it, but at least he helped Bob Marley's career in doing it.
     
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  12. OberonOz

    OberonOz Senior Member

    Well, I think both Page and Plant thought that the punctuation in the title would give it away. "D'yer Mak'er" D yer Mak er? Jer mak er? Did you make her? Jamaica? Not rocket surgery :) Its that old sort of vaudeville humour that would have been popular both sides of the Atlantic, altho a long time ago now. Very old school kind of music hall joke.

    Steve
     
  13. ledsox

    ledsox Senior Member

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    Great track by Dee Dee. Thanks for that! Easy to hear the influence. I don't think Bonzo want to do a reggae groove anyway.
     
  14. wavethatflag

    wavethatflag God is love, but get it in writing.

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    "D'yer Maker"--in high school I didn't get the joke and I'm not sure when I first did. I always pronounced it "die-er make-er." I thought the drumming was ponderous (it would never occur to me in my early high school years that this was an attempt at reggae, being probably totally unfamiliar with that form at the time (which shows me how fast youth flashes by because not two years later I would meet a kid from the Ivory Coast and get exposed to reggae in a huge way)). Yet, even just thinking about it, I love how Bonham seemingly wacks the **** out of his kit.

    I thought the vocal sounded like a bad 50s Elvis song. But, amazingly, I never hated "D'yer Maker". I thought it was fine as a strange entertainment, and I could tell it was some sort of a lark even when I didn't get the joke. How this one and "The Crunge" don't ruin Houses Of The Holy is no small trick. Once someone explained the bridge joke to me, I thought it was the funniest song ever. And I'm not sure when I realized it's a James Brown or soul knock-off.

    I suppose "D'yer Maker" and "The Crunge" benefit from that fact that they were recorded during a time when Zeppelin could do little wrong musically, even when they were going wrong musically. "The Crunge" is worth listening to for Jones' bass playing alone.
     
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  15. zbir

    zbir Forum Resident

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    And now, listening to that part, I can put the finger on why I love this song: it's the broken rhythm, that "stumbling" effect (IDK what it is, I'm not musician) that I love in Black Dog, too. Like they don't have any use for cadence.
     
  16. Linus Vendeen

    Linus Vendeen Forum Resident

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    HOTH is my favourite Zeppekin album and I think a really important one. It puts away the direct blues influences and replaces them with a sound that is uniquely theirs. It also has lots of texture and even today on songs like The Song Remains the Same sounds quite radical and new. To me it has always had quite an American summer sound but maybe that is just an assciation I have based on hearing it first in Florida in 1978. It certainly does not sound like the work of rock dinosaurs.

    I know D'yer Maker and the The Crunge are often cited as being weak songs but I like what they add - even with their faults. The one track I wish was on the album is Houses of the Holy as it fits the album's vibe so well and if so I had been there at the time I would have said "Jimmy, replace Dancing Days with Houses of the Holy so it opens side two".

    I think I read sales of HOTH were considered disappointing following 4 which is a shame if it limited their desire to experiment. Phys Graf I find rambling and unfocussed as an album, something I never felt with the first 5.
     
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  17. giantleech

    giantleech Lord of all fevers and plagues

    For what it's worth, Kashmir isn't exactly a particularly safe place to travel about in these days.
     
  18. Timjosephuk

    Timjosephuk Forum Resident

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    Don't you mean

    "I'm taking my wife to South East Asia"
    "Jakarta"?
    "No, she walked on her own"
     
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  19. Linus Vendeen

    Linus Vendeen Forum Resident

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    My wife's off to a Casino in the south of France
    Toulouse?
    I bloody hope not!
     
  20. major_works

    major_works This is my Custom Title

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    Bummer... I was hoping for a happier ending.
     
  21. michael landes

    michael landes Forum Resident

    Since she's come up, Suzy Creamcheese was real alright. She wrote I'll Never Learn , the last GREAT track recorded by the Shangri-Las
    to the best of my recollection.
     
  22. Pseudonym

    Pseudonym Senior Member

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    It makes no sense because the overwhelming majority of Americans don't insert "R"s after vowels at the end of words ("I sawr a film today, oh boy.") It's juh-MAY-kuh, not juh-MAY-ker. So, yes, even if you understand it, it's a pretty lame joke.
     
  23. tkl7

    tkl7 Agent Provocateur

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    The only American who I have ever heard do that in real life is Tony Danza.
     
  24. The Trinity

    The Trinity Do what thou wilt, so mote be it.

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    I love the tune, and all things Zeppelin.

    But what ever happened to Rosie and the Originals?
     
  25. Pseudonym

    Pseudonym Senior Member

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    Heavy New York and Boston accents, both non-rhotic, feature the so-called "instrusive R."
     
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