Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Mirrorblade.1, Sep 1, 2014.
What a bizarre rip off of a set that is.
I wouldn't want her as a permanent part of the cast as I can't see her replacing anyone as I think it would've been crowded with her. However, it would have been great to have in a recurring role though.
PS- All the of Life With Lucy episodes are on Youtube.
Life with Lucy (1986): The Complete Series - YouTube
Well, thats your opinion and thats fine. Personally, I could see Lucy in the Bea Arthur role in a nanosecond and I think she would have been fantastic in it.
Gale Gordon was a total pro, very nice man, and his comedic timing was still impeccable when he did the show. First-class gentleman. Nobody could do a "slow boil" better than Gordon in his prime.
Looks like there were 13 episodes after all -- my memory was only 12. I'm 90% sure only eight shows actually got aired on ABC before the series got the axe. That was a sad experience.
The only redeeming few seconds in the link provided is the heartfelt, and loud, applause Lucy gets when she appears for the first time.
Almost made me cry!
The rest is truly awful. But takes NOTHING away from her accomplishments in her prime.
Exonerating Ms. Ball: A Look at LIFE WITH LUCY
I'm mystified as to how you got that out of what I wrote. You've completely missed the point I was making.
Lucy was quite funny when she was younger, but her comic persona did not work well when played by an elderly woman. Put simply, physical comedy is the purview of the young... comedians whose acts age well are those whose humor is more verbal than physical. Did Lucy have the talent to do something else? Quite possibly, but she apparently wasn't interested in trying something different.
"It was a big mistake to allow this comeback vehicle to be created by a pair of writers whose ideas of comedy never evolved past 1958 and whose figurative well of creativity had been dry since 1963..."
That's a huge mistake by this blogger and an insult to the writers on the show. But I only know that because I was there.
The reality was that the writers had done lots and lots and lots of other, more modern shows in the 15 years since Here's Lucy went off the air (huge ratings for Madelyn Davis as writer/producer on Alice). They were smart, talented people who tried very hard to write a modern, contemporary hit show designed for the same audiences that were watching Cosby and Golden Girls and so on, but the reality is... Lucy rejected them. Her defense was, "I know my audience, and they want to see me do the old schtick, not this new stuff." Lucy steadfastly refused to do a 1980s-style show.
So -- against the advice of producer Aaron Spelling, the writers, and others -- Lucy pushed them to go into basically the same kinds of shows she had done in the early 1970s. The plots with the kids and the family were particularly cornball and silly. By the time everybody realized the ratings had fallen off the cliff, it was too late to pull the plane out of a nosedive (to mix my metaphors).
I thought the best episode of Life with Lucy they ever did was the one with guest star Audrey Meadows as Lucy's sister, because she also had real comedy chops and there was a lot of conflict and action with the two characters arguing and reacting with each other. I told one producer, "man, we could've done a great show with the two of them every week." He nodded sadly but said, "unfortunately, that's not the show we wound up with."
Hey, at least John Ritter is in one of the episodes. That's a bright spot, to be sure.
Staggeringly bad. Watching Lucy try to "romance" WWI soldier John Ritter in the play-within-a-show is weird and uncomfortable, almost like necrophilia. Awful. And yet both were really, really talented people.
Alice was a really good written show that they were involved with.
Do you have any insight on how Audrey and Lucille got along? Jayne (her sister) said something a long time ago that there was something between them that she couldn't get into. Also, it was said Audrey was offered to come on permanently (right before it was canceled and she refused).
Czes: Youre looking at old "I Love Lucy" clips with all that physical comedy and you've reached the conclusion that's all Lucille Ball did well.
In her subsequent series, "The Lucy Show" and "Heres Lucy", she did very little physical comedy. Those shows were situational, relying on the Daffy nature of the Lucy character and how her reaction to life's problems differed from everyone else. She was GREAT at that, like in the episode where she cons Buddy Rich into giving Craig Drum Lessons. I dont see that being affected by age. As for not being interested, where did you get that?
"Life With Lucy" was poorly written, plain and simple. It tried to update "I Love Lucy", which was the mistake. If it were me, I would have paired Lucille Ball with another legendary actress like Carole Burnett, and have then play off each other. I think that could have been a very funny comedy.
Absolutely no clue. I only worked with the post-producer and the editor, so I wasn't privvy to behind-the-scenes conversations like that. I can say Audrey had a good time and looked great in the part. I think the truth is that Audrey Meadows had married the CEO of Continental Airlines in the early 1960s and never needed to work for the rest of her life, plus she got residuals from The Honeymooners, which were on endlessly in every market. So it's not like she wanted to work or needed the money.
The Lucy Show was only good in the first few seasons when Vivian Vance was there. The shows went downhill after she left and Here's Lucy was pretty terrible. That show was more like a sketch in a variety show than like a TV series. How that lasted 6 seasons, I'll never know.
I'll say one thing Life With Lucy has going for it- it makes me want to watch a few hours of I Love Lucy so I'll laugh and get this sad feeling out of my brain...
It couldnt have been "pretty terrible" since it lasted 6 seasons. "Pretty Terrible" shows get cancelled because nobody watches and the advertisers pull their $$.
Heres Lucy was a successful show, so really not sure what your point was.
You're kidding, right? Small Wonder ran 5 seasons as did The Brady Bunch. Facts of Life ran even longer and don't get me started on Bonanza. Unwatchable. Popularity doesn't equal quality.
Your confusing your taste for quality.
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