Listenin' to Classical Music and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluemooze, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing the following CD from my Sibelius collection, another long-term fave ...

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    @Wes H, I know you are a big fan of Sir Colin conducting the Sibelius Symphonies with the BSO. While I have all the Sibelius cycles by Sir Colin, I also enjoy the cycle by Paavo Berglund with the Helsinki Philharmonic. How do you like that cycle?
     
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  2. DeepFloyd11

    DeepFloyd11 Lady Eclectic

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  3. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors

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    That set is corduroy. Non directional. Find a NOS made with fibers.
    Used LP stores sometimes still have real ones.
     
  4. DeepFloyd11

    DeepFloyd11 Lady Eclectic

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  5. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Now on the TT: Haydn Symphonies 95 & 96, played by the London Philharmonic, directed by Eugen Jochum.
    DG released LP from 1974, manufactured in Germany. It's "big band" Haydn, for sure... but for these late "London" symphonies, it's the way I prefer it.

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  6. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    :edthumbs::edthumbs::edthumbs:
     
  7. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Paul Badura-Skoda and Joerg Demus made a great team back in the day. :righton:
     
  8. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    My Eugen Jochum 6-LP box includes the above recording ...

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  9. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    I already have the original DiscWasher record and stylus brushes from the 80's ...

    I just ordered the highly rated AudioQuest Anti-Static Record Brush

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  10. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors

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    Black Sails on Starz had a 4 season run. The complete series is available on Netflix, Hulu or Prime (CRS).
    It mixed RLS's Treasure Island characters into "actual" West Indies historical Pirate action/drama.
    It's (mostly) very exciting and visceral with plenty of sea battles and strategy.
    Very well done <--good for TV but never do that to a steak
    Black Sails (TV series) - Wikipedia

    Last night I read with The Musical Offering CD18 playing
    My current life soundtrack is a violin sonata from CD19
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  11. ibanez_ax

    ibanez_ax Forum Resident



    I also like Szell's "big band" Haydn.
     
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  12. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    This is my first CD big box and still the biggest box in my classical music collection ...

    BTW, how do you like this BC Bach big box?
     
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  13. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Sorry, but I'm unfamiliar with it.

    Checking the Archivmusic site, the reviewer notes that Berglund recorded the Sibelius cycle three times... and he recommends the first set with Bournemouth SO as the best of the lot. Here is his rationale:
    "[Paavo Berglund's] second cycle, with the Helsinki Philharmonic, has slightly better playing but rather harsh, early digital sonics. His last run, with the Chamber Orchestra of Europe, as the name of the ensemble suggests, is hyper-detailed but small in scale, designed more for the connoisseur interested in tiny subtleties rather than an all-encompassing view of the music. This first series of recordings [w/the Bournemouth SO] offers the best compromise between spontaneity and Berglund’s love of studied precision, and remains a reference edition."

    Would you agree with that?
     
  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    I actually only have a partial Bournemouth Sibelius cycle. My outboard DAC may have tamed some of the harsh digital sonics in the Helsinki version and the music sounds fine to me ...

    I listened to the Karajan's Sibelius recorded with EMI around the same time yesterday and the recording sounds fine as well.
     
  15. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    I have the Audioquest with the gold contacts. It seems to pick up dust better than the old version if used properly (which can be a bit tricky).

    Many people rave about the old Discwasher brush/system (and I had one back in the '70s), but I never had much success with it.
     
  16. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    I see. Well if the Helsinki recording is tolerable and the playing is better (as that reviewer stated), the it would be the version I'd seek. I'll put it on the Wish List. ;)
     
  17. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Ha, that's the review from David Hurwitz on the Classics Today site. He's generally not too keen on smaller ensembles playing late romantic stuff. As I noted upthread I haven't heard the COE cycle, but now and then I find it refreshing to hear leaner, more transparant and detailed performances. I wouldn't want to be without Berglund's "traditional" cycle with the Bournemouth orchestra, though.
     
  18. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors

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    I only have a large fistful of single/double Bach CD sets to compare to but I like it a lot.
    I've enjoyed the 1st 19 CDs* and expect the rest will be comparable.

    Now - "Can I have more Violin Sonatas (CD20) please?" - Tiny Tim holding a soupbowl

    *Except flute sonatas. I almost never enjoy flute sonatas but it's Bach so at least it wasn't painful.
    I didn't expect to enjoy the Lute Works as much as I did but I did.
    It's my first listen to over 80% of these works and I almost regret** avoiding Bach forever but now it's all mine.

    **almost regret
    Edward Abbey Quote
     
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  19. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    I saw a few episodes of "Black Sails" and liked them, but I couldn't keep up with Starz' schedule at the time. Now I don't have a subscription to Starz, so... :shrug:
     
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  20. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors

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    I just checked and it's available on Hulu :tiphat:




    ...and The Pirate Bay probably

    Black Sails, Pirate Bay, yuk yuk
     
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  21. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Yes, David Hurwitz... and I should have included a credit for the reviewer I was quoting. Thanks for noting that.
    Usually I prefer a larger ensemble for late romantic works; but since I've not compared all of these versions, I can't say how the scaled-down COE would affect my preference for one recording over the other.
    However, I appreciate your input; it has given me more to consider.
     
  22. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Absolutely! Szell's Haydn is superb.
    Davis with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam, (on Philips) is another great "big band" Haydn that I wouldn't want to be without.
     
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  23. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    Now playing CD1

    Beethoven Symphony No. 7 Staatskapelle Berlin June 1941
    Overture "Leonore III" Concertgebouw September 1943
    Wagner Die Meistersinger, Prelude to Acts I & III Staatskapelle Berlin February & April 1939

    from the following box for a second listen ...

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    BTW, this may be among the very few recordings where Karajan conducted the CO ...
     
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  24. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I have a number of Haydn Symphonies by Colin Davis with the CO and they are excellent ...
     
  25. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors

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    single/double/triple/quadruple/um, what's a nifty way to say a 20 pack?
    Also another few dozen between the 3 Archiv, HDM100CD, Baroque Masterworks, Leonhardt, etc boxes & LPs. I need a bigger house
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