Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lonson, Sep 1, 2016.
Listening to this double LP for the first time in a while. I'd forgotten how good it is.
Cool! I really did like it yesterday, more so than some of the other late Miles recordings I've gotten recently. The first time I listened to Under Arrest, I liked it; the 2nd time I liked it, but a little bit less; the third time, I though something to the effect "I'll give this one more listen some time in the not too distant future and if it doesn't step a notch up, it'll probably be the last for a while". Man with a Horn, I've only put on once since I got it, but it didn't resonate with me, I'll have to try it out again soon. Actually, I have a whole stack of late Miles albums waiting to be listened to for the first time: Amandla, Tutu, Aura, and Decoy (I think I started listening to Decoy once but got interrupted). Until a few months ago I had always avoided the late Miles.
WP: Miles Davis, Bags' Groove (AP Prestige mono)
Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers - Blue Note 1518 (Music Matters 45)
I like all those but then I'm a bit strange
Have you heard the Heard Live Around The World? It is incredible for this era of Miles. Kenny Garrett is a monster on these recordings. I'm not a big fan of Miles' later years but there are still me gems and the live album makes a good "sampler" of said tracks.
Another recent acquisition. Solid album throughout, but nothing really blew me away.
No, I haven't gotten that one yet.
I have streamed Aura once several months ago, I remember that I really liked it. On Under Arrest, I liked the Human Nature and Time After Time covers (10 years ago I never would've imagined those words would ever come out of my mouth). Something overall was not quite gelling for me, I think it may have actually been Miles . (Omg, what have I said).
Since moving out to the burbs about 5 years ago, I don't venture in the city (Chicago) to catch shows nearly as much - missed this one back in 14.
Ken Vandermark's Audio One: The Midwest School. Also, finally gotten around to order Vandermark's Stone box set - should be getting it next week.
I have the 2004 SACD. Adding it to this weekend's queue. It has been a while...
Two excellent titles. I never tire of Bags' Groove.
Y'all are playing some excellent titles these past several days. I need to emerge from my indie / rock / psychedelic rut, where I have been stuck for a couple weeks.
I have that Bags' Groove on my wantlist, and I realized, after seeing your post, that I got that particular Horace Silver album several months ago in a stack of nine Music Matters 45s that I was able to procure for a nice price, but I have yet to play it, so... now I'm playing it too.
I was starting to wonder what happened to you. As you have probably gleaned from my recent posts, personally, I've been in a Grateful Dead phase for the last, coming up on, two months. It's nice to get in a different phase for a while for a change of pace. When I stick my head out from my GD cave for a jazz record, it feels extra nice.
Haven't played this sweet piece of music in a little while:
Herbie Hancock - Speak Like a Child (Music Matters 45)
NP. I always enjoy Bill Frisell.
whats your take on this one (Jason? Right) . I see it in the bins occasionally.
I like all of these Freddie Hubbard on CTI that I've heard (about 5 of them). This one may be a little mellower than the others. If you like the 70s sort of sound, you'd probably like it.
I put a new platter on my turntable--an acrylic one--and am surprised at how much quieter it is than the old steel platter w/Herbie's mat. I think the steel platter, which rung like a bell when the mat wasn't on, was actually resonating the motor noise and delivering it to the stylus. With the much less resonant acrylic, my turntable sounds about as silent as I suspect it ever will. I'm so happy with the upgrade, I'm listening again to my jazz vinyl collection in order of recording date.
Hank Mobley Quartet - Blue Note 5066 (Music Matters 45)
Cool! I bought a new turntable back in January with an acrylic platter. Actually, looking at your profile, I see we have very similar TTs, I have the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Espirit SB. I'm not entirely sure, but I think the Debut Carbon is the successor to the Debut III? Anyway, it was a huge upgrade in sound from the Audio-Technica PL50 that I had before since way back when I was in college. Enjoy!!!
Yep, definitely. I bought the Debut III years ago and have slowly upgraded it over time. Just comparing apples to apples and not counting various cartridges/styli I've tried, upgrading my Debut III to what comes standard on the Carbon DC Esprit SB put me at $120 over the purchase price of the newer table, and left me without the upgraded tonearm, motor, and replaceable RCA cables. So if I could start over again, I would definitely jump in with the Debut Carbon DC Esprit SB. It's the best bargain, and possibly the best sounding table, at the entry level, in my opinion. My next table, assuming there is one, will have to be a big jump up.
Likewise. I plan on waiting quite a while until my kids are more grown up so I don't go grey worrying about it getting messed up.
Bingo! My young son already ruined one of those styli I mentioned above, when he suddenly reached for the platter and his sleeve got caught on the stylus and yanked it sideways.
Kenny Dorham - Afro-Cuban (Music Matters 45)
The latter session on this set was recorded just two days after Hank Mobley Quartet 5066, and includes many of the same players: Mobley, Horace Silver, and Art Blakey. Not coincidentally, the same early Jazz Messengers as on the Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers album I posted earlier, which of course included Dorham and Doug Watkins, the latter also playing on the Mobley record but not this Dorham. Many of my earliest jazz records are various combinations of these men on Blue Note from the 1500 series, at the birth of post-Bird hard bop. Though I respect and greatly admire the earlier sub-genres of jazz, I don't own or listen to much of it, but there's (knock on wood) time to change yet.
I was very impressed earlier by the sound on that Horace Silver & the JM. Compared to some of the other early 1500 Blue Notes it was really stellar, but even just in general. Although, I'm thinking of the two early 1500 ones titled as, simply, Jazz Messengers vol 1 & 2, and I believe those were recorded live in a club, IIRC, so maybe that has something to do with the lower sound equality. Actually, the Music Matters reissues of those still sound really good, but I streamed one of them via Apple Music and the sound is what I usually refer to as being pixelated (i.e. What I think of as the audio equivalent of being pixelated).
As far as early jazz, not sure if you're referring to not having much of pre-Bird or Bird. As far as Bird, I went through a huge Bird phase that coincides with my a huge Monk phase, starting probably around '02 and lasting for several years. I don't have a ton of stuff pre-Bird, but one of my favorites that I do have is this collection of Lester Young with the Kansas City Six.
Yeah, the Jazz Messengers At the Café Bohemia is awesome. I think those sound fantastic on Music Matters. I do think the studio recordings from 1955-56 aren't so great, but that Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers is a standout. It sounds much better to my ears than Hank Mobley Quartet (5066).
And yeah, I don't have much Bird, really. Nothing on vinyl and very little on digital. I know I should correct that, but his ghost is on everything I listen to. It would be kind of like watching The Matrix 20 years later for the first time and wondering what the fuss was about, I think. Y'know, at the risk of being glib and insulting and overly praising Bird's imitators at the expense of a true original via a bad analogy.
I have recently had to spend more time in my car on short trips around town & I managed to listen to all of the Miles Davis boxes 'The Cellar Door Sessions 1970' & 'Miles At The Fillmore', both from the public library. Not my favorite Miles, but very interesting & good driving music.
That reminds me that I haven't even started to delve into the Cellar Door sessions yet and I love this period of Miles... the future's so bright
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