Madonna HDTracks

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  1. Terry

    Terry Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Has anyone taken the True Blue plunge? Very curious, oh, so curious.
     
  2. c-eling

    c-eling When I look in your eyes, only one road to follow

    Very cautious about this one, very happy with the mac titles , wonder why they
    started with this particular title ?
     
  3. Terry

    Terry Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    And this title is no longer on Spotify. Hmmm.
     
  4. Thurenity

    Thurenity Listening to some tunes

    True Blue was a 96khz digital source? I figured that, given the time period, it was likely 44khz sourced. I thought I heard that LAV and later were all digitally mastered.

    Need to go back to my vinyl and Spek it. ;)
     
  5. c-eling

    c-eling When I look in your eyes, only one road to follow

    My old TB cd is pretty destroyed so for ***** and turds probably grab this tomorrow
     
  6. Blue Collar Man

    Blue Collar Man Active Member

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    It sounds ok. Much better than the remaster from 2001. The EQ is similar to the old unremastered CD.
     
  7. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Maybe they are trying to expand beyond dinosaur rock?
     
  8. thxphotog

    thxphotog Forum Resident

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    "La Isla Bonita" is one of my go-to demo tracks, still after all these years, but it's the Immaculate version. I use it because of the mostrously wide soundstage. Q-Sound at its best.

    But I digress. Will likely pick this up sooner or later depending on a few more reviews. Not a blind buy for me.
     
  9. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    I am 99.9% certain "True Blue" is an analog, 30 i.p.s. Dolby SR analog recording. In 1986, I was all into that album.

    What they most likely did was transfer the analog master to 24-bit/192kHz, just like with hundreds of other albums on HD Tracks.

    She went back to digital for "Like A Prayer, though.
     
  10. Thurenity

    Thurenity Listening to some tunes

    My old needle drop was with my old setup, so it's useless for a Spek comparison - I'd need to re-drop it to 24/96.

    Might explain the SQ because that 80's vinyl sounds really good to these ears. Might also explain why they picked TB if this one was all analog.
     
  11. c-eling

    c-eling When I look in your eyes, only one road to follow

    I meant with true blue and not with s/t
     
  12. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    I don't know the resolution of the samples on HD Tracks, but the 96kHz/24-bit version sounds very, very close to my original 1986 CD.
     
  13. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    I never cared for the S/T album. I want to see them put up "Like A Virgin", which I think they will soon.
     
  14. Thurenity

    Thurenity Listening to some tunes

    I actually did a needle drop of my LAV LP just last month, and Spek is telling me that the its likely 44khz sourced (very clear hard stop at ~20khz). If they add LAV in HDTracks, should be interesting to see what the sample rates will be.
     
  15. GreenDrazi

    GreenDrazi Forum Resident

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    True Blue is her biggest selling studio album and has sold a lot more than Madonna.
     
  16. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Well, of course it's a from a 44.1 source! It's well advertised and known that it's a 16-bit/44.1 digital recording "from start to finish". The liner notes even tell you that! I don't need a vinyl rip analysis to prove that. But, I guess you never owned the original CD.

    If they put it up on HD Tracks, it will likely be upped to hi-rez, like they did with Dire Straits "Brothers In Arms".

    But, back to "True Blue". I have decided that I can live with the original CD. It sounds great. If I ever find some money to burn, maybe i'll download the 96k version just to have it. Just because something comes out in hi-rez on HDTracks doesn't automatically mean it's going to sound superior.
     
  17. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    I'm not saying I dislike the first album. I like the three hits from it, but the overall album does not give me a satisfied listening experience. Even with "True Blue", I usually skip the very popular song "La Isla Bonita".
     
  18. Thurenity

    Thurenity Listening to some tunes

    I actually do have the original CD, but my liner notes are buried somewhere post-flood. Now you're going to make me go search. ;) EDIT: Says digital,but not the actual sample rate. I'm assuming likely 16/44, but possibly 24/44? Probably more the former, given the time period?

    I haven't seen evidence of HDTracks doing recent upsamples, ie. Achtung Baby comes to mind (24/44). So if they do upsample on LAV, they might get some flak for that.
     
  19. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Well, albums like "Brothers In Arms" was recorded around the same time as Live A Virgin", and they were both recorded with state of the art 16-bit digital technology at the time, as producer Nile Rodgers owned among the first Sony DASH machines and digital mixing boards ever made. LAV was a 24-track digital recording. Who knows what they did for the CD remaster.
     
  20. EddieVanHalen

    EddieVanHalen Forum Resident

    Like A Virgin is a 44.1/16 bit multi-track recording, mixed down to 44.1/14 bit digital, so the master tape is not even 16 bit.
     
  21. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Not technically, no. But, it is a 16-bit/44.1 master.
     
  22. Terry

    Terry Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    So no one has downloaded this. Take the arguments about anything other than the title of this thread elsewhere.
     
  23. EddieVanHalen

    EddieVanHalen Forum Resident

    The mix-down master used back in 1984 was 44.1/14 bit, I don't know if they remixed it for the 2001 remaster, I personally don't think so.
     
  24. svafo

    svafo Member

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    I downloaded the 24/96 yesterday and I have only listened through headphones so far. I can only compare to my Immaculate Collection which obviously sounds different because of the "Q-sound" process. The EQ is different also.The HDtracks seems more flat/neutral.
    The loudness level seems to be roughly the same on both (Immaculate is DR12). I haven't measured the HDtracks but it doesn't sound compressed at all -it sounds really good. I will know more about exactly how good when I get my NAD C390DD next week:)
     
  25. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    It was 16-bit.

    No, the remaster was not remixed.
     
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