“Mastered by Nimbus” CDs question.

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by flashgordon, May 25, 2007.

  1. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    Forgot to say that I mean UK Nimbus :sigh:
     
  2. bcaulf

    bcaulf Forum Resident

    There is a version made earlier than that but I don't know how many dots it has.
     
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  3. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    Do you mean it has a wider mirror band around the hub like this one?
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  4. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    Not sure if you have already found a 1-dot 'Mastered by Nimbus', this link should lead to images of one;
    KING CRIMSON -1969- In The Court Of The Crimson King - 1st. press UK - MASTERED BY NIMBUS - CD

    [​IMG]

    The rear cover indicates it is also a Definitive Re-mastered edition, which the French MPO 01 does not.
     
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  5. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    Could be the packaging for the 1 dot above is in error as I do not recognise the first EAC levels listed here (presumably a 1 dot);
    Getting To The Bottom of King Crimson On CD

    These are the levels for the ones I do have;

    Polydor 02 Matrix;
    94.7 / 53.5 / 70.1 / 38.4 / 84.2

    MPO 01 Matrix;
    95.5 / 53.4 / 63.6 / 21.2 / 91.9

    Mastered by Nimbus 2-dot (definitive re-master);
    100 / 49.9 / 66.1 / 35.7 / 94.8

    Variant (definitive re-master);
    100 / 49.9 / 66.1 / 31.8 / 84.5
     
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  6. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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  7. havefun6699

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    I have this mastering on pictured CD that belongs to 3CD box King Crimson - The First Three
     
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  8. Former Lee Warmer

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    :agree:
    Better than the SACDs!
     
  9. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    Marketed by JEM version:
    100.0 / 55.9 / 66.6 / 22.2 / 96.3
     
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  10. zappaien

    zappaien Forum Resident

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    Sorry for digging the post but i need to get a first edition of Islands : i read a lot of posts and found out that nimbus 1 dot is a Hidden DE Mastering and got that confirmed by drdatabase
    Now i got a lot of sellers with nimbus 2 dots. Anyone could be kind and confirm me that nimbus 2 dots from Islands is the EG pre DE of the album ? I just can t find any answer on nimbus thread. That could be nice to re-arrange a list with confirmed EG first mastering before DE
    I also discovered that Islands is confirmed EG with MPO CD or JET ones, but i can t find them on discogs, all the sellers have different versions
     
  11. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    Islands CDs with one dot Nimbus, two dot Nimbus and MPO are sharing the same mastering. They all plus JEM (Sweden made) are NOT remasters.
     
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  12. zappaien

    zappaien Forum Resident

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    I found a mpo version, i m Happy

    But apparently The one dot version is a remaster , drdatabase says it so
     
  13. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    It is not. I have them all checked.
     
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  14. zappaien

    zappaien Forum Resident

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    Here is The link

    Album details - Dynamic Range Database

    It clearly seems that The one dot is a DE With same barcode than previous EG
    The dynamics are not The same than 1987 ones
     
  15. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    There's absolutely no sense trying to compare different CDs with DR figures.
    Try EAC. It gives you peak levels for every song. Thus you can 100% see if it is the same mastering or not.
     
  16. zappaien

    zappaien Forum Resident

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    Totally agree With you !!
    I spent hours to figure what album is preDE and not
    Don t hit me , i just wanted to buy a First Edition of islands and i spent hours and it s clearly complicated

    Someone who knows should Make a list With every version, KC is a jungle !!
     
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  17. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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  18. zappaien

    zappaien Forum Resident

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    Superb ! It ll Help a lot ! THanks
    Japan version is pretty sure but expensive

    I Want to get in The wake of poseidon In flat EG too and i have some difficulties too to get a real First Edition

    Especially With nimbus dots

    Can you tell me The ones to get ?
     
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  19. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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  20. zappaien

    zappaien Forum Resident

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  21. kevin5brown

    kevin5brown Analog or bust.

    Yes there is. If the DR #'s are different, it's a different mastering. If they are the same, it might be the same mastering. A lot of entries in the Dynamic Range Database include the full DR reports, and from those, you can most certainly tell if it's the same mastering or not.
     
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  22. havefun6699

    havefun6699 Senior Member

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    It might and it might not. If you do not need to know for sure, OK this method works well.
     
  23. fmfxray373

    fmfxray373 Capitol LPs in the 70s were pretty good.

    Just found a pretty beat up Nimbus Piper At The Gates Of Dawn UK cd.
    Pretty beat up I will try it later.
     
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  24. strippies

    strippies Forum Resident

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    The DR database values contain the EAC peak levels.

    The chance of having 2 cds with the same correct DR database values but different masterings is approaching zero.

    2 cds with different DR values could be containing the same mastering with, for example, a levelshift applied.

    The problem is that the database is riddled with incorrect submissions, so if you want to be 100 percent sure, looking for additional evidence is a good idea.
     
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