Midnight Oil - the album thread

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  1. barking spider

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    Are you in for a treat:

     
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  2. barking spider

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    good things always come in two

     
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  3. findog3103

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    "Sometimes" is one of my all-time fave kick out the jams songs. Awesome.
     
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  4. ericthegardener

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    This is my favorite song from Species and one of my favorite Oils songs ever. It's just so tightly wound and different from anything else in their catalog to me, yet it still sounds like Midnight Oil. I wish there had been a few more like this one over the course of their career. Glad they played it a few times during the tour last year, unfortunately not the show I attended.
     
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  5. ericthegardener

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    Diesel and Dust is a record I got so burned out on in the 80s that I actively avoided it for around 25 years. When I started my Oils renaissance around 3 years ago I finally gave it another listen. And it's much better than I remembered. Sure, the production is slick and a bit cheesy in places (nowhere more than on Beds Are Burning, musically my least favorite on this album), but almost all of the songs are really strong. The bridge in Put Down That Weapon is brilliant in it's simplicity and power. Arctic World was not a standout song for me back in the old days, but now I love it. Bullroarer is terrific, and the only problem with Sometimes is that it's played too slow. You can't have heard the live version of Sometimes and then not be a little let down by studio version.

    Can't say that I've found anything to disagree with in the lyrics. I've always thought that Midnight Oil lyrics were generally the opposite of goofy, trite, utopic lyrics. They seemed to be saying "we all deserve a better world and this is what we think we should do to get there". I always really appreciated their specificity. Left less room for misinterpretation. There were other bands, whom the Oils were occasionally grouped with, whose lyrics were so vague that anyone could invest them with any meaning they wanted. One way to sell more records I suppose.

    All in all a pretty great album and I can see why it's their biggest selling album worldwide, even if I still prefer the slightly more experimental Oils that preceded D&D.
     
  6. brimuchmuze

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    Saw them live last year :)

    A 2017 live album would be great. Anything forthcoming?
     
  7. mark winstanley

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    that's fair
     
  8. mark winstanley

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    i honestly don't know, but I imagine so.
     
  9. mark winstanley

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    Beds Are Burning
    The song that appeared to launch the bands international career. This is a very tightly written song and well structured.

    "Beds Are Burning" is a 1987 song by the Australian rock band Midnight Oil, the first track from their album Diesel and Dust. This song was the second from the album to be released as a single, and is among the band's best-known songs outside Australia.

    It reached No. 1 in New Zealand, South Africa and Canada, No. 3 in the Netherlands, No. 5 in France, No. 6 in the United Kingdom and Australia, No. 11 in Ireland and No. 17 in the United States and Sweden.

    It is one of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll.

    It was named number 95 on VH1's 100 Greatest One Hit Wonders of the 80s and number 97 by the Triple J Hottest 100 of All Time in 2009.

    In May 2001, Australasian Performing Right Association (APRA) celebrated its 75th anniversary by naming the Best Australian Songs of all time, as decided by a 100 strong industry panel. "Beds Are Burning" was declared third behind the Easybeats' "Friday on My Mind" and Daddy Cool's "Eagle Rock".

    "Beds Are Burning" is a protest song in support of giving native Australian lands back to the Pintupi, who were among the very last people to come in from the desert. These 'last contact' people began moving from the Gibson Desert to settlements and missions in the 1930s. More were forcibly moved during the 1950s and 1960s to the Papunya settlement. In 1981, they left to return to their own country and established the Kintore community, which is nestled in the picturesque Kintore Ranges, surrounded by Mulga and Spinifex country. It is a community with a population of about 400. Kintore and the town of Yuendumu are mentioned by name in the lyrics, as are vehicles produced by the Holden company.


    Lyrics
    Out where the river broke
    The bloodwood and the desert oak
    Holden wrecks and boiling diesels
    Steam in forty five degrees

    The time has come
    To say fair's fair
    To pay the rent
    To pay our share

    The time has come
    A fact's a fact
    It belongs to them
    Let's give it back

    How can we dance when our earth is turning
    How do we sleep while our beds are burning
    Four wheels scare the cockatoos
    From Kintore East to Yuendemu
    The western desert lives and breathes
    In forty five degrees
     
  10. mark winstanley

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    Put Down That Weapon
    Another very well written song about war and its side effects.


    Lyrics
    Under the waterline
    No place to retire
    To another time
    The eyes of the world now turn
    And if we think about it
    And if we talk about it
    And if the skies go dark with rain
    Can you tell me will our freedom remain
    Put down that weapon or we'll all be gone
    You can't hide nowhere with the torchlight on
    And it happens to be an emergency
    Some things aren't meant to be
    Some things don't come for free
    Above the waterline
    Point the finger yeah point the bone
    It's the harbour towns
    That the grey metal ships call home
    And if we think about it
    And if we talk about it
    And if the seas go boiling black
    Can you tell me what you'll do about that
    Put down that weapon or we'll all be gone
    I must know something to know it's so wrong
    And it happens to be an emergency
    Some things aren't meant to be
    Some things don't come for free
    They keep talking about it
    They keep talking...
    Put down that weapon or we'll all be gone
    You must be crazy if you think you're strong
     
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  11. dirkster

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    D&D is slickly produced, but I love the big fat bass lines. Really, I love the sound of this album! Blue Sky Mining went too far and robbed the songs of some of their power, and their earlier albums were so taut and stripped. For me, this production was the sweet spot.

    As much as I like 10,9,8... this album is the one I’ve listened to from start to finish the most times.

    I was shocked to find out that a song had been dropped for the US edition. “Sometimes” is such a great finishing track that it seems odd to hear “ Gunbarrel Highway” as the proper end now.
     
  12. dirkster

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    I saw them live, in support of D&D, at a 1000-2000 seat auditorium usually used for history lectures at the University of Illinois (Champaign) and they put on a great show, ending with a cover of “What’s So Funny About Peace Love and Understanding”.
     
  13. mark winstanley

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    it is bizarre some of the changes they make to albums. to me if it is done, it's how it should be ... barring remix/remaster editions and noted bonus tracks
     
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  18. ericthegardener

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    I can't remember where I read it now, but there is definitely going to be a live DVD and album later this year.
     
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  19. mark winstanley

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    Dreamworld
    Probably my favourite song of this album. Nice structure and melody, with some strong riffs linking things together.

    The song laments the loss of much of Queensland's built heritage — including the Cloudland Dance Hall, where Midnight Oil had frequently performed[1] — which was demolished under the then-ruling Joh Bjelke-Petersen state government.[2][3][4] The Dreamworld theme park, which inspired the song's name, is briefly shown in the music video.



    Lyrics
    The Breakfast Creek hotel is up for sale,
    The last square mile of terra firma gavelled in the mail,
    So farewell to the Norfolk Island pines,
    No amount of make believe can help this heart of mine.

    End, your dreamworld is just about to end.
    Fall, your dreamworld is just about to fall,
    Your dreamworld will fall.

    So shut that buckle and turn that key again,
    Take me to a place they say the dreaming never ends,
    Open wide drive that mystery road,
    Walk through eden´s garden and then wonder as you go.

    Sign says honeymoon to rent
    Cloud-land into dreamland turns,
    The sun comes up and we all learn
    Those wheels must turn.
     
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  20. mark winstanley

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    Arctic World
    Nice mellow ballad to balance things out. Of course this isn't a boy meets girl kind of ballad, I'm not sure the Oils ever did a song like that lol


    Lyrics
    I don't want to grow anything in my heart
    I don't want to write all these things in the sand
    I don't want to listen and not understand
    I don't want to tramp up the footpath of stars
    Don't want to be an advocate
    Don't want to be a monument
    There is nothing that grows in your arctic world
    I don't want to breathe that Smithsonian air
    I don't want to listen when they toll the bell
    ''cause I can't take another industrial feast
    On the ground, on my back, out there
    I want to meet the president
    Of a country without sense
    There is nothing that grows in his arctic world
    There is nothing that grows in your arctic world
    There is nothing that grows in this arctic world
     
  21. mark winstanley

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    Warakuma
    This songs starts with a nice little arpeggio guitar and some synth wash. The song comes in as a very well and has a more soothing sound and feel to it.


    Lyrics
    There is enough for everyone
    In Redfern as there is in Alice
    This is not the Buckingham Palace
    This the crown land
    This is the brown land
    This is not our land
    Some folks live in water tanks
    Some folks live in red brick flats
    There is enough, the law is carved in granite
    It's been shaped by wind and rain
    White law could be wrong
    Black law could be strong
    Warakurna, cars will roll
    Don't drink by the water hole
    Court fines on the shopfront wall
    Beat the grog and save your soul
    Some people laugh, some never learn
    This land must change or land must burn
    Some people sleep, some people yearn
    This land must change or land must burn
    Diesel and dust is what we breathe
    This land don't change and we don't leave
    Some people live, some never die
    This land don't change this land must lie
    Some people leave, always return
    This land must change or land must burn
    Warakurna, camels roam
    Fires are warm and dogs are cold
    Not since Lassiter was here
    Black man's got a lot to fear
    Some people laugh, some never learn
    This land must change or land must burn
    Some people leave, always return
    This land must change or land must burn
     
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  24. mark winstanley

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    The Dead Heart
    For me this is probably the best song on the album, but the radio absolutely flogged this song to death back in the late eighties.


    Lyrics
    We don't serve your country
    Don't serve your king
    Know your custom don't speak your tongue
    White man came took everyone
    We don't serve your country
    Don't serve your king
    White man listen to the songs we sing
    White man came took everything
    We carry in our hearts the true country
    And that cannot be stolen
    We follow in the steps of our ancestry
    And that cannot be broken
    We don't need protection
    Don't need your land
    Keep your promise on where we stand
    We will listen we'll understand
    Mining companies, pastoral companies
    Uranium companies
    Collected companies
    Got more right than people
    Got more say than people
    Forty thousand years can make a difference to the state of things
    The dead heart lives here
     
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  25. dirkster

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    “The Dead Heart” - when the song kicks into the last couple minutes, it swells up and goes next-level. A true career highlight for this group.
     

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