Midnight Oil - the album thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, May 20, 2018.

  1. Beds are burning. I have discovered the band by this song and seen them in a festival in Belgium.
     
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  2. Al Smith

    Al Smith Forum Resident

    Any of you oz boys or girls remember this bit of Rob Hirst action every Saturday morning circa ‘83 or 84.

     
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  3. Kassonica

    Kassonica Forum Resident

    Love the middle 8 in mountains of Burma.
     
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  4. Al Smith

    Al Smith Forum Resident

    Blue Sky had great tunes, but at the time I found the Australiana lyrics were laid on a bit thick; cane cockees, the smell of the wallaby stew, the tucker box, seemed a bit old fashioned compared to some of the angry sophistication of 10/1 and Red Skies.

    I recall reading an interview with the band (probably in Rolling Stone OZ) that Garrett was heavily reading Lawson and Banjo Patterson around that time - certainly comes across in the landscape and natural imagery.
     
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  5. bob_32_116

    bob_32_116 Forum Flaneur

    Location:
    Perth Australia
    When people only know one Oils song, it's usually Beds Are Burning.
     
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  6. bob_32_116

    bob_32_116 Forum Flaneur

    Location:
    Perth Australia
    American artists throw in just as many images from their country, I think it's just we are so accustomed to hearing it that we think it's normal.

    Personally I found it refreshing to hear lots of Australian references in songs sung by a rock band, as opposed to someone like Slim Dusty or John Williamson.
     
  7. ericthegardener

    ericthegardener Forum Resident

    Location:
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    As an American, I liked all of the Australian references in Midnight Oils lyrics, even as I didn't understand them. I prefer specificity in lyrics because I like a unique vision. I know that some artists feel like specificity prevents their lyrics from being universal, but I don't necessarily need to be familiar with the names and places mentioned in a song to get the bigger message. I see movies and read books all the time that are far removed from my personal experience and yet I understand the stories and morals.
     
  8. luckycountry

    luckycountry Forum Resident

    Location:
    Leeds
    Love Mountains of Burma and Blue Sky as a whole. The first Oils album I heard and I think it's aged really well.

    The issue of Australia references is really interesting. Wasn't it around 1990 that Columbia/Sony in the US wanted to make the band bigger than U2? Pete discusses this in his autobiography. The band decided against it as they didn't want to spend so much time overseas and becoming a commercial juggernaut. I guess the Aussie content on Blue Sky was a response of sorts to the suits in NYC.
     
  9. bob_32_116

    bob_32_116 Forum Flaneur

    Location:
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    No, I think the Aussie content was always there, but maybe it got noticed more when they started to get a bit of attention overseas. Diesel and Dust, in particular, is inconceivable without the Australian references.
     
  10. barking spider

    barking spider Forum Resident

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    My first experience with the Oils was when I heard this fantastic track on the U2 soundsystem just before U2 came on stage during The Unforgettable Fire tour. Those Irish boys know how to give you goosebumbs before they even started.
     
  11. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    King Of The Mountain
    This is another strong song. I can understand why so many folks love this era of the Oils. I do like this stuff, I just find it can't compete wit the sheer inventiveness and urgency that was created with 10-1, but again for some folks that would be a distraction rather than a focus point.
    Any how we have the clean guitars and the straight beat and the nice use of melody and structure to create another pop classic for the Oils to hang on the wall.
    On a funny note I just noticed the actual lyrics .... I always thought he was singing Kay Cottee's burning the load .... Kay Cottee - Wikipedia


    Lyrics
    Walking through the high dry grass, pushing my way through slow
    Yellow belly black snake, sleeping on a red rock
    Waiting for the stranger to go
    Sugar train stops at the crossing, cane cockies cursing below
    Bad storm coming, better run to the top of the mountain

    Mountain in the shadow of light, rain in the valley below
    Well you can say you're Peter, say you're Paul
    Don't put me up on your bedroom wall, call me the king of the mountain

    Blacksmith fires up the bellows, cane cutters burning the load
    Workers of the world, run to the top of the mountain

    Mountain in the

    I can't take my hands from my face, there are some things we can't replace

    Mountain in the

    Over liquid tarmac wastelands of cactus and heat
    Down cobblestone alleyways of washing day sheets
    Up ghost prairie mountains of sunset and space
    Down the road at a familiar place, across the wilderness
    Out further than the bush I will follow you
     
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  12. mark winstanley

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    River Runs Red
    This is a mellow song that seems to reflect where the Oils were at this time. From my observations the bands harder songs were softer than previous and their softer songs were more frequent. This isn't a criticism, just an observation. I found as I grew older I grew more mellow, so it would be hypocritical to criticise anyone else for that natural progression.
    The writing is solid and focused and as always there is a point to the lyrics.
    Good song again from the boys.


    Lyrics
    So you cut all the tall trees down, you poisoned the sky and the sea
    You've taken what's good from the ground
    But you've left precious little for me
    You remember the flood and the fall, we remember the light on the hill
    There should be enough for us all, but the dollar is driving us still

    River runs red, black rain falls, dust in my hand
    River runs red, black rain falls, on my bleeding land

    So we came and we conquered and found
    Riches of commons and kings
    Who strangled and wrestled the ground
    But they never put back anything
    Now I'm trapped like a dog in a cage
    Wherever the truth is pursued
    It must be the curse of the age
    What's taken is never renewed
     
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  13. mark winstanley

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    Shakers and Movers
    Another moderate to slow tempo song and Peter Garrett singing with a voice that seems softer than his general singing voice. This is another good song and obviously lyrically very good, but again we have Midnight oil light to my ears.


    Lyrics
    Won't you come on down the line, away from barren ground
    The harlot and the autocrat, are they driving you further down
    The season's rhymes, they anchor me, against the raging tide
    Take you to the last wild place, skin and the stars they embrace
    A caveman could a saint become, on a hospital ward on the Somme
    We can dive into distant amoebas, our wings could melt in the sun

    I can shake, I can move, but I live can't without your love
    I can break, Over you, but I live without your love

    Our poet Henry Lawson, he named them, the lay'em out brigade
    Here they come, there they go, oh great god of development
    Don't really know you yet
    Coastline hosed down washed away, economics now there's nothing left
    Tomorrow's child takes concrete footsteps
    And they'll drink champagne or be damned

    And the storm is breaking now, yes the storm is crashing down
     
  16. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    One Country
    A mellow song that starts with just the vocal and the acoustic guitar. Into the second verse we have some gentle touches added from other instruments to colour this in a little. For the most part this is a poignant acoustic ballad and well presented by the band. There is a burst of drums and instruments at about the three minute mark and we enter what is essentially an extended coda.


    Lyrics
    Who'd like to change the world, who wants to shoot the curl
    Who gets to work for bread, who wants to get ahead
    Who hands out equal rights, who starts and ends that fight
    And not not rant and rave, or end up a slave
    Who can make hard won gains, fall like the summer rain
    Now every man must be, what his life can be

    So don't call, me, the tune, I will walk away

    Who want's to please everyone, who says it all can be done
    Still sit up on that fence, no one I've heard of yet
    Don't call me baby, don't talk in maybes
    Don't talk like has-beans, sing it like it should be
    Who laughs at the nagging doubt, lying on a neon shroud
    Just gotta touch someone, I want to be

    So don't call, me, the tune, I will walk away
    So don't call, me, the tune, I will walk away
    So don't call, me, the tune, I will walk away

    Who wants to sit around, turn it up turn it down
    Only a man can be, what his life can be
    One vision, one people, one landmass
    We are defenseless, we have a lifeline

    One ocean, one policy, seabed lies
    One passion, one movement, one instant
    One difference, one lifetime, one understanding

    (One country)

    Transgression, redemption, one island
    Our place mat, one firmament
    One element, one moment, one fusion
    Yes and one time
     
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  17. SpudOz

    SpudOz Forum Resident

    As usual, I'm always late to the party but I'm here now to put my two cents in.

    Red Sails in the Sunset was a great follow up to 10, 9, 8....... and really helped to solidify the band's presence on the Australian national psyche. Although some mid-80's production techniques were starting to creep into the sound, the songs were still powerful enough to stand up in their own right and not be hampered by that production. And as the op stated, the concert on Goat Island to celebrate JJ/JJJ's tenth anniversary is a fantastic document of how powerful the Oils were in a live setting at this time. I remmeber being very excited when I first saw that 10, 9, 8... and read Sails were first released on CD a few years later and I agonised over which one to purchase as I only had enough money for one album.

    Diesel & Dust probably ranks as my second favourite album of theirs after 10, 9, 8.... It also seemed to signal a change in how the band was evolving moving forward. The anger was still there but seemed more restrained while the songs were more "refined" (dare I say mellow?) for want of a better term. Were they aiming for more commercial sound to appeal to a wider audience, especially globally? Listening to Diesel & Dust as I am typing this out.

    Flush with their international success of Diesel & Dust, Blue Sky Mining carried on in the same vein with a similar refined sound appealing to the same audience that had picked up on them on the previous album. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Or, "When you're on a good thing, stick to it". I've always found Blue Sky Mining a little disappointing after Diesel & Dust as there didn't seem to be much in the way of musical progression and I found a lot of the music to be more mellow, almost timid in a way so as not to intimidate or frighten away any new and recent fans. Had the Oils lost their anger and hunger and become comfortable with their recent success? All I know was I hoping for a return to form on the next album. Was I to be disappointed.

    I don't think that it's any coincidence that international fans tend to prefer the later more refined/slickly produced Oils albums while Australian fans tend to veer towards the earlier more raw and angry albums when the band was on fire, angry and fully aware of what they were angry about.
     
  18. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    beautiful summary mate, i concur whole heartedly
     
  19. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Easy album and song guide

    Midnight Oil - 1978 Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Powderworks Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Head over heals Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Dust Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Used and Abused Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Surfing with a spoon Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 Run by night Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Run by night live 1981 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 Nothing lost ... nothing gained Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Head Injuries - 1979 Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Cold cold change Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Section 5 (bus to Bondi) Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Naked flame Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Back on the borderline Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Koala sprint Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 No reaction Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 Stand in line Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Stand in line live 1981 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 8 Profiteers Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 9 Is it now? Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Bird Noises EP 1980 Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 No time for games Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Knife's edge Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Wedding cake island Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 I'm the cure Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Live at the Melbourne Show Grounds 1980 - Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Place Without A Postcard 1981 Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Don't wanna be the one Midnight Oil - the album thread
    don't wanna be the one live - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Brave faces Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Brave faces live in 1982 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Armistice day Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Armistice day live 1982 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Someone else to blame Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Basement Flat Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 Written in the heart Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 Burnie Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 8 Quinella holiday Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 9 Love's on sale Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 10 If Ned Kelly was King Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 11 Lucky country Midnight Oil - the album thread

    10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 - 1982 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Outside world Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Only the Strong Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Only the Strong Live Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Short Memory Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Short Memory live Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Read About It Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Read About It Live Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Scream in Blue Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 U.S. Forces Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 Power and The Passion Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 8 Maralinga Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 9 Tin Legs And Tin Mines Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 10 Somebody's trying to tell me something Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Red Sails In The Sunset 1983 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 When the Generals Talk Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Best Of Both Worlds Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Sleep Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Minutes To Midnight Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Jimmy Sharman's Boxers Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 Bakerman Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Bakerman demo, with vocals Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 Who Can Stand In the Way Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 8 Kosciuszko Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 9 Helps Me Helps You Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 10 Harrisburg Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 11 Bells And Horns In The Back Of Beyond Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 12 Shipyards Of New Zealand Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Oils On Water - Live On Goat Island 1985 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Best of both worlds Midnight Oil - the album thread
    When the generals talk Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Minutes to midnight Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Sleep Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Only the strong Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Short memory Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Kosciuszko Midnight Oil - the album thread
    US forces Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Jimmy Sharman's Boxers Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Back on the borderline Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Tin legs and tin mines Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Don't wanna be the one Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Power and the passion Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Read about it Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Harrisburg Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Stand in line Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Species Deceases 1985 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Progress Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Hercules Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Blossom and Blood Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Pictures Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Diesel and Dust 1987 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Beds are burning Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Put down that weapon Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Dreamworld Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Arctic world Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Warakuma Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 The dead heart Midnight Oil - the album thread
    The dead heart - extended version - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 Whoah Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 8 Bullroarer Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 9 Sell my soul Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 10 Sometimes Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Sometimes live - bootleg - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    Sometimes live 1989 - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 11 Gunbarrel Highway Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Blue Sky Mining 1990 = Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 1 Blue sky mine Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 2 Stars of Warburton Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 3 Bedlam Bridge Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 4 Forgotten years Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 5 Mountains of Burma Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 6 King of the Mountain Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 7 River Runs Red Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 8 Shakers and Movers Midnight Oil - the album thread
    track 9 One Country Midnight Oil - the album thread


    Midnight Oil and Exxon - Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Peter Garret and Jimmy Barnes (live)
    - Dreams of ordinary men (Dragon) - Midnight Oil - the album thread
    - Locomotive Breath (Jethro Tull) - Midnight Oil - the album thread

    Rob Hirst - Beatbox - Midnight Oil - the album thread
     
  20. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    "Blue Sky Mining" did seem kind of anodyne in comparison to the previous few albums. It's where I stopped buying Midnight Oil albums. I imagine I missed out. The rest of this thread will be new territory for me.
     
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  21. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    me too mate. I've been making myself familiar with the later stuff as we move along, but back in the day i left the party after species deceasies.
     
  22. ericthegardener

    ericthegardener Forum Resident

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    Dallas, TX
    Two or three years ago, when I listened to Blue Sky Mining for the first time in a couple of decades, I instantly knew and could sing along with every song on the album, except Shakers and Movers. It did not sound familiar at all. Don't know what that says about the song.
     
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  23. mark winstanley

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    Antarctica
    This song starts at a slow and steady beat with a unified chant. As the verses move through, the unified chant changes somewhat to back the lead vocal. The song finds a crescendo in the middle that builds quite effectively and then drops out for a piano outro. This song is very effective.


    Lyrics
    I'm a snow plough
    I must now plough on
    I'm a snow plough
    I'm a settler's son
    I'm a storm cloud
    Rain myself all over the place
    I'm a storm cloud
    Wipe that smile right off your face
    There must be one place left in the world
    Where the mountains meet the sea
    There must be one place left in the world
    Where the water's real and clean
    I'm a landslide
    I'm a downhill run
    I'm a landslide
    Open season's just begun
    There must be one place left in the world
    Where the skin says it can breathe
    There's gotta be one place left in the world
    It's a solitude of distance and relief
    There's gotta be one place left in the world
    I'm a snow plough
    There has to be one place left in the world
    I'm a snow plough
    One place
    One place left in the world
    I'm a short fuser
    I'm a slow bluesr
    I'm a landslide hummin I'm a downhill runnin
    There must be one place left in this world
    Where we can be

     
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  24. mark winstanley

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    You May Not Be Released
    This was the b-side of forgotten years and at some point tacked on the end of the album. It's a pretty decent song. Another slower tempo song.


    Lyrics
    I understand things aren't often planned
    Under the bridge
    Pushed to the edge
    That's the way the story often ends

    There's always love
    You must understand
    You may not be released
    You must understand
    You may not be released

    Do you believe it
    So many things are talked about
    But not much is done
    Living in these times
    The rock is a heart
    Yeah, the rock ain't no stone
    Stones 'll be thrown
    You can't guess who but you know
    there's another Pete track overlayed here
    but I can't understand it
    There's always love

    You must understand
    You may not be released
    You must understand
    You may not be released
    Well I say, Well I say you must understand
    You may not be released
     
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  25. ericthegardener

    ericthegardener Forum Resident

    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Only heard YMNBR for the first time a fairly recently. I think it's a pretty strong song. Would have been happy for it to have taken the place of Forgotten Years, King Of The Mountain or Shakers and Movers.

    I tend to like the Oils best when they're fast and a little angry, or when they're slow and moody. It's the mid-tempo pop songs that don't always work for me. There are exceptions of course.
     
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