Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Cheli Venco, Jan 18, 2016.
From the webpage you've cited:
"The long vowels are /iː/ (as in fleece), /uː/ (as in goose), /ɜː/ (as in nurse), /ɔː/ as in north and thought, and /ɑː/ (as in father and start)."
Thanks for helping me make my case.
Winner of most obscure argument of the year... Already!
James Reyne, both is his solo work and with Australian Crawl would intentionally pronounce words in unbelievable ways. In one of his solo songs Hammerhead he turned the work 'nicest' into the three syllable "Ni-Ce-Cest'.
Things - Thaangs
Don't - Dowwn't
Quite - Qhaht
Right - Raht
On another note, misspelled rock groups/musician names:
That's not the section I provided the link to; that part is referring to the literal length of the vowel, not the pronunciation terms "long" and "short."
I see a little silhouetto of a man
This is where the confusion arises. My point remains.
"What is it with you guys??" Maybe it's those inferior Capitol versions we grew up with in the States, but clearly we hear something you don't.
Well, in "The Ties That Bind", Bruce Springsteen turns "bind" into a 13-syllable word.
But "thaangs" is a pretty common pronunciation really.
I remember an interview once where it was stated his last name rhymes with "Heart" or Neil "Part".
The first one that comes to mind is The Platters Only You.
Only You... CAND make the world seem right
Only You... CAND make the darkness bright...
Avril Lavigne did, though.
This is an interesting thread. I've been bugged since the mid-sixties by the Beatles "soar" instead of "saw" and was surprised many did not hear the "error." However, the linguistic lessons of the past few pages have clarified that for me. In fact, my father was born in Michigan and always pronounced "wash" as "worsh," a similar pronunciation pattern. The discussion reminded me of a book I'd once browsed (and wish I'd bought) of misunderstood song lyrics. The most common one from CCR is "There's a bathroom on the right." In fact, Googling the phrase leads to several videos, one of which has soundclips of the actual lyrics with the misheard lyrics printed on the screen. Embarrassingly, with several songs, I heard what was printed...
I found an amusing article describing the most commonly misunderstood lyrics on the NBC news website:
"San Francisco Chronicle columnist Jon Carroll, one of my favorite columnists writing today, refers to misheard lyrics as "Mondegreens." It comes from an old Scottish lyric, "they have slain the Earl of Murray, and laid him on the green," which was misheard as "they have slain the Earl of Murray, and Lady Mondegreen."
Carroll believes the most misheard lyric is "Gladly, the cross-eyed bear," as opposed to the real lyric, "Gladly, the cross I'd bear." Hmm. Funny, but that hymn's not in too many of our daily radio rotations.
But he admits that "There's a bathroom on the right," as misheard for CCR's "There's a bad moon on the rise," is a close second. Numerous readers have submitted "bathroom on the right" in our comments, despite admitting with embarrassment that, well, the song's title should perhaps have tipped them off.
Here are just a few of those other most-misheard lyrics, as compiled most unscientifically by me, poking around those sites:
• "The girl with colitis goes by." (Real lyric: "The girl with kaleidoscope eyes," Beatles)
• "Olive, the other reindeer." (Real lyric: "All of the other reindeer.")
• "The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind." (Real lyric: "The answer is blowing in the wind," Bob Dylan.)
• "There's a wino down the road." (Real lyric: "And as we wind on down the road," Led Zeppelin.)
• "In a glob of Velveeta, honey." (Real lyric: "In-A-Gadda Da Vida," a.k.a., "In the garden of Eden," Iron Butterfly.)"
Well then it must be the reverb
Of course this famous example is a case not of mishearing but of misunderstanding, since the two sentences are phonetically identical.
Shame on my school. We were taught that the long vowel sounds mimicked the actual vowel letter; may / beat/ child/ cold/ use.
Or "canda", as one might spell it. This one is really mystifying, since of course no one in their own speaking voice is going to pronounce 'can' in a way that, if anything, approximates its exact opposite. The strange pronunciation must be intentionally put on. But why?
I've never heard that one! Crazy... and not at all true.
Well, since this whole thread is about pronunciation...
From Don't Think Twice, It's Alright by Bob Dylan:
It ain’t no use in turnin’ on your light, babe
That light I never knowed
This may be more bad grammar than bad pronunciation!
This is not a mis-pronunciation per se but a difference in UK/US customs, I guess, and that's the hard 'g' in the 'ing' construction. The US population generally doesn't add the hard 'g' sound, but I believe the Brit's do. Best example I can think of is Paul McCartney in "The Songs We Were Singgingg". I've also heard it among the US Jewish population.
I had a friend when I was a child who was born in Canada to Mancunian parents, and while he bore no trace of an English accent himself we had a discussion about whether 'singer' and 'finger' rhymed. I was flabbergasted that he insisted they did, in fact, rhyme.
Since we are now also talking about grammar (see gort Stereoptic's post above), why the apostrophe in "Brits"? Just wondering.
As for the hard g, I've heard many Brits pronounce "singer" with a hard g. Most were from the North of England.
"Young things from Boston, so young and wheeling"
Hey Nineteen came up on my shuffle this morning and I immediately thought of this thread.
Separate names with a comma.