Mobile Fidelity Vinyl One Step of SANTANA, BILL EVANS TRIO, etc.*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Drew769, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. FashionBoy

    FashionBoy Forum Resident

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    Are you sure MoFi uses SS? The whole mastering set up is built by Tim de Paravicini who I am sure you know is a tube legend.
     
  2. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ Well-Known Member

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    And I'm very thankful for that :D For me I want "neutral"... not warm, not cold, just room temperature ;)

    I'm never quite sure about what people mean by "warmth", but to me it always translates to "colored", less accurate sound...

    Maybe "warmth" means a thicker mid range? I'm not really sure what it is... but I'll say this, for example MFSL's Love Forever Changes, if it gets any "warmer", it will set your turntable on fire :D
     
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  3. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Well, that has been my understanding. I'm trying to find more specific information.

    This is on MoFi's site about the Gain 2 system:

    GAIN 2™ Ultra Analog™ System or Vinyl

    GAIN 2 Ultra Analog™ is a proprietary cutting system built and designed by legendary design genius Tim De Paravicini, with consultation from one of MFSL’s founding fathers – Stan Ricker, an audio engineer responsible for many of MFSL’s most heralded past releases.

    The GAIN 2 Ultra Analog™ system is comprised of a Studer™ tape machine with customized reproduction electronics* and handcrafted cutting amps that drive an Ortofon cutting head on a restored Neumann VMS-70 lathe. (*It is worth noting that independent studies have confirmed that the GAIN 2 Ultra Analog™ system can unveil sonic information all the way up to 122kHz!)

    First and foremost, we only utilize first generation original master recordings as source material for our releases. We then play back master tapes at half speed enabling the GAIN 2 Ultra Analog™ system to fully extract the master’s sonic information. Our lacquers are then plated in a specialized process that protects transients in the musical signal. (Due to this process, there may be occasional pops or ticks inherent in initial play back, but as the disc is played more, a high quality stylus will actually polish the grooves and improve the sound). We further ensure optimum sound quality by strictly limiting the number of pressings printed for each release. These limited editions, in addition to being collectors’ items, ensure that the quality of the last pressing matches the quality of the first.

    As you can imagine, all these efforts involve a tremendous amount of time, technology, cost and effort. The introduction of GAIN 2 Ultra Analog™ maintains Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab’s position as the world’s leading audiophile record label, where a passion for music with extraordinary sound quality matters most."

    Studer tape machines, as I have read, were one of the first to use micro-processors. They certainly made valve machines.

    In any event, I'm trying to do more research. I betcha Mikey Fremer knows. I might shoot him a post.
     
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  4. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    The MoFi reissue of Roy Orbison's All-Time Greatest Hits is certainly cool compared to the S&P or DCC, done by Hoffman and Gray via tube electronics. Many on this list preferred the older reissues of the Orbison, in spite of MoFi, for the very first time, cutting up the tapes of the original albums to put together that greatest hits album. The original of the All-Time Greatest Hits as well as the DCC and S&P all used the one generation off master that had been created by the original label. The MoFi is the only one that used the master tapes from each original album to make the record. It's got tons of detail, things you've never heard before, but the music is with a cooler perspective.
     
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  5. rollo5

    rollo5 Forum Reprobate

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    I agree. Tubes are "warm," solid state is cold or analytical is dated at best and a lazy generalization at worst.
     
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  6. 5-String

    5-String μηδὲν ἄγαν

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    Exactly, this is one of the many myths and misconceptions that exist in the world of audio-foolery.
     
  7. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    If you say so. Bernie Grindman has both, as each has different qualities.
     
  8. NewKidInTown

    NewKidInTown Forum Resident

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    If they did Dreamboat Annie, I would be wild!!! Man, if only...
     
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  9. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ Well-Known Member

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    Agreed... this would be a killer sounding release for sure :)
     
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  10. Blue Cactus

    Blue Cactus Forum Resident

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    Oh hell yes! :agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  11. gfxmla

    gfxmla Forum Resident

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    Yes. I totally support this!
     
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  12. Ricardo Cosinaro

    Ricardo Cosinaro Forum Resident

    There's a third category - 'collectors'. Some of us keep sealed copies of certain artists / titles as a collection. Someday they'll either be sold - at which point you could say we're 'investors' but the intent isn't to make a profit - or opened and played as God intended. :)
     
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  13. Vinylfindco

    Vinylfindco The Pressing Matters

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    That's true. I have backups that remain sealed, just in case I have a mishap with a favorite album.
     
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  14. dkurtis

    dkurtis sonoftheFather

    There are many times I have become an accidental 'investor'. Those times when you have unintentionally kept a record sealed and by the time you run across it again it has appreciated 5X - 10X what you originally paid for it. While not my original intent, I can no longer open the record.
     
  15. vinylguy4

    vinylguy4 Forum Resident

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    I would definitely buy it.
     
  16. Jason Simmons

    Jason Simmons Well-Known Member

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    It must have sold more than 100, because I got copy 186 today. Still need to clean her up and give a spin later today. It's no where near the presentation of the Mofi one-steps. Packaging was a normal 2LP gatefold and signed by Lyn Stanley; for what that's worth.
     
  17. tronds

    tronds Forum Resident

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  18. TakiJones

    TakiJones Senior Member

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    Did every one get a set of black and white photos?
    I do not see any the box I received, #512.
    Where are they in the box?
     
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  19. gst510

    gst510 Forum Resident

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    They should be. I got them.
     
  20. TakiJones

    TakiJones Senior Member

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    My box has the the 2 black LP sleeves with the album cover pic, the 2 blank white inner sleeves, the 2 records of course and 2 pieces of foam.
     
  21. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ Well-Known Member

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    That explains why I have 4 photos!
     
  22. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ Well-Known Member

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    Ok... just kidding... 2 photos here :uhhuh:
     
  23. sonofjim

    sonofjim Senior Member

    I might actually bite on that as well. I'm not a huge Bill Evans fan. I'm wrestling with the Nightfly idea and my originals are good enough I think I'll end up passing. The problem with a record like Dreamboat Annie is how good the original Mushroom pressings can sound. I have multiple and I'm not sure a $100 45 rpm reissue can improve on that enough or at all.

    I bought Santana and it's clearly better than the original pressing so I guess $100 sure. That album wasn't done too well originally IMO. Pull out an original Nightfly or Dreamboat Annie though and then figure for yourself if a $100 ($100!) reissue is really necessary. Collector's value is the other consideration. Yes, these may sell for big bucks in the not so distant future. I don't blame anyone for buying these, just some random thoughts.
     
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  24. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ Well-Known Member

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    I have an amazing sounding original mushroom LP, but I'm still confident MFSL could make it sound much better, just listen to what they've been putting out recently ;) Even today I played the latest Ry Cooder MFSL's and they are stunning. If they did Dreamboat, at 45rpm, with their current gear and Krieg Wunderlich, it would be a total blast for sure. The 45rpm cut alone is guarantee for much better transient response and virtually eliminates all distortion.
     
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  25. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

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    Ok, if we're going through everyone's cd/record collection, I would like to see Chris Squire's Fish out of Water and Bill Bruford's One of a Kind.
     

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