Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Drew769, Dec 1, 2015.
Awesome that BOTT is confirmed. Still holding out hope for a mono Blonde on Blonde 1 step.
so, you buying any or not?
I think there is a good chance that this will be the #10th title in the series...
Just preordered my copy of BOTW. Now the wait begins...
Probably not,not these titles.Would buy the Santana if it gets released again.
I was going to get the Lyn Stanley One-Step,but Fremer's review changed my mind.
So I have them all on pre-order now. No indication of titles beyond the first nine. Salesman said "Bridge over Troubled Water" was limited to 7,500 copies. He didn't know stats for the rest. He also said one of the titles may be cancelled in the future, but didn't say which one. Here are the catalog numbers from my orders if you are interested...
UD1S 001 Santana - Abraxas
UD1S 002 Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard
UD1S 003 Donald Fagen - The Nightfly
UD1S 004 Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge over Troubled Water
UD1S 005 Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Touble - Texas Flood
UD1S 006 Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
UD1S 007 Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Touble - Couldn't Stand the Weather
UD1S 008 Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
UD1S 009 Bill Evans Trio - Portrait in Jazz
I ordered BOTW yesterday over the phone, before they put up the online order link, and I was told I could order all the coming UDS1 titles, including BOTT and What's Going On. So I did ask, with the number of pressings per UDS1 going up for each title so far, what is the expected number for the Stevie Ray, Dylan and Gaye titles, and the salesperson had no clue at this time.
He did tell me, without stating a number, that Music Direct got A LOT of pre-orders on the Simon and Garfunkel title even though it was word of mouth and only by phone.
I actually thought about placing a pre-order for all of the UDS1 titles, but with the "fact" that the last three or so aren't due until possibly 2019, any credit card I would provide would expire (since my cards have current expiration dates in 2019) and when they tried to put the order through it would reject unless I called again to update the new expiration date and 3 digit number on the back of the card.
I still might pre-order just to ensure I get a copy.
One last thing, I did talk to the sales person about the fact that there is some dissension among people that order the UDS1 product from other suppliers and never get their orders. I was told that Music Direct told other retailers that third party stock would be very limited to non-existent and that they (3rd party suppliers) shouldn't offer pre-orders (or not even offer for sale) until they knew exactly what kind of stock they would receive.
I know that sounds sort of backwards, and effectively shut out other retailers from even offering the product, so there really is no easy answer here, other than Music Direct specifically setting aside a certain number UP-FRONT for other retailers and stating with certainty that would be the number the 3rd party seller would receive. So if a title is pressing 7500 (like BOTW), maybe 3000 are not sold by Music Direct, but automatically set aside for other retailers up front. But I guess Music Direct doesn't want to do it that way.
Personally, it doesn't matter to me, since I always order all Mofi product from Music Direct, since I know they will come through on the product.
Music Direct is doing well with this series. With all stock being sold right away, there is very little "warehousing". Its $100 each revenue with very little (if any) going for discounting or wholesaling. This series will probably continue for a while. Just hope I have the shelf space for one of each...
Oh good grief, they are Blood on the Tracks and What's going on. I just preordered and I'm sure anyone else can too. Likely not out till 2019 and, if for some reason, they don't happen, the preorder is null and void.
Thanks for putting up. Have been patiently waiting for the usual email from MD...now I don't need to worry.
Just ordered everything after Simon & Garfunkel except Stevie Ray Vaughan. I just never got into his music. I'm getting the other ones for the music so I'm safe as can be. I don't have to worry about whether or not they appreciate on the market.
I'll be doing that Marvin Gaye and 2nd Bill Evans (already preordered BOTW). That'll leave an extra copy of the others inbetween for a lucky purchaser.
How about doing Bowie's Ziggy Stardust on One Step? Killer.
I’m a bit disappointed in the announced titles, with the exception of BOTW, which I think could benefit from this process. Not a SRV fan, and don’t see the point in two titles. MOFI did Marvin Gaye not so long ago and while I know it’s important, I hardly care to listen to it. I guess I need a Blood on the Tracks. Portrait in Jazz is cool, but it’s another Bill Evans title. With a series like this I wish they’d limit it to one per artist. I think they could be slightly more adventurous.
If you have read through this thread for posts within the last couple of months, you'll get a lot of agreement. But the problem is, when it comes to more "adventurous" titles, they'll also be a bit more esoteric. So what appeals to me may not appeal to you. At $100 per, they need to select titles that will sell a lot and also sound pretty stellar. Would The Motels' 'Only The Lonely' be an interesting title to some? Sure, and it's a wonderfully recorded album. The original was mastered to vinyl by Doug Sax. But how many would that title sell at $100?
Put it another way - You complain that 'What's Going On?' has been done by MoFi a while back (I don't even remember them doing it, but I'll take your word for it.). What popular album that also sounds great hasn't been done before. Part of the equation is whether the 1-Step process/45rpm treatment will render a significant improvement. AND sell 7500 copies!
Abbey Road would make a GREAT title, but it seems as if Universal really wants to hang onto all forms of media releases at this point. Dark Side Of The Moon has not been put out at 45rpm, but there have been attempts at putting it out recently. None as great as original UK Harvests, though. But you'd get many people tired of seeing DSOTM get reissued.
Important jazz titles are one genre that will sell. Sorry you don't want another Bill Evans title, but after Miles Davis, he's probably the next most popular jazz instrumentalist of the modern era. Would an Ella or Sarah album sell? In any event, popular jazz albums will sell. Jazz album producers, like classical and musical theater album producers, put a lot of effort into getting them to sound great. Rock and roll album producers?? GREAT sounding rock and roll records are relatively few and far between.
Wow, can't imagine DSOTM or Abbey Road carved up into four sides!
I agree about the selected titles,especially the two SRV albums,which are still on sale from AP on 45rpm.Really?
I would bite for something like DSOTM,done to death and probably not great a recording to begin with,but considering the latest LP was a major disappointment for me,if they can license it again and get the master tapes,it would sell out in one day,even if they press 10 000.
You don't like what Bernie Grundman did ?
Well, I've pre ordered a One Step of Bridge Over Troubled Water. Will be my third. No denying the sonic improvements of Neil Young's Greatest Hits, and Abraxas.
We'll never really know the benefits (if any) of the one step process if we can't listen to the same cut/mastering with "regular steps" process. Much the same applies to UHQR. If the new Axis mono becomes the best Axis mono ever, we can't really know if it's thanks to the UHQR process or because Bernie did his best mastering yet unless we can listen to the same mastering in a regular pressed edition. But, of course, record labels are not interested in doing that.
In case anyone missed it, simon and Garfunkel can now be ordered online
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Sorry,but no.The new mastering commits the biggest sin towards an old analogue recording-it sounds digital.Same with the Abbey Road half-speeds.
Some digitally sourced LPs can almost fool me,but DSOTM is not one of them.I havent heard the 2011 Sax/Gray cut yet,but i am not holding my breath.
Obscured by Clouds is slightly better.I havent heard the others yet.
Hmm... about DSOTM, I’m not saying that you’re not entitled to dislike Bernie Grundman mastering but if anything that’s a quite analogue sounding cut. However, the Sax cut, which I like, can be described as digital soundings (it is digital). The latter is still in print (easily available at least) so do you think that it’s possible that you have the Sax cut?
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