Neil Young Launches Online Archives (1st December 2017)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Defrance, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Boswell

    Boswell Forum Resident

  2. Six Bachelors

    Six Bachelors Troublemaking enthusiast

    It’s only a story relayed by a fan. I haven’t heard the tape if there is one but apparently the Dead said from stage once (or maybe many times), following repeated requests from the crowd to play Dark Star, that they played it in the previous night’s show, might play it in the late show that night, might even play it the following night but were definitely not going to play it in this show. I’m sure Neil could just tell the requesters to come the next night or listen to the album when they get home.

    I have never understood audience demands for particular songs. Surely you are paying to see the performer do what he/she/they feel(s) most motivated to do?
     
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  3. NeilYoungFan

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    "Love ain't looking for perfection...
    love's the answer, love's the question"
    NYF
     
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  4. swedwards1960

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    In the 1999 Akron solo acoustic show, I saw him do the best thing for a typically obnoxious situation. A couple joined another couple — late — in the first or second row. They seemed like the type who wanted to say they were there, in the first or second row, rather than be there for the experience itself. They talked upon arrival, much longer and much more necessary given that a one-man show with acoustic instruments had already begun.
    Neil addressed them directly, saying, “I’ll pay you to leave.”
     
  5. rockclassics

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    If you go back to the Cincinnati show from 1970 - I think it is before Don’t Let it Bring You Down - after an extended musical intro he finally says “if you two down there just wouldn’t talk to each other I could get into it.”

    IIRC this show is on the boot titled Danny By The River.
     
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  6. Zongadude

    Zongadude Music is the best

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    Are we sure the paid subscription for the Archives site will ever happen ? (and with it the unlocking of everything and the addition of new and unreleased stuff ?)
    I hope this is not another case of a great project finally not reaching completion. :cry:
     
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  7. dtuck90

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    His label will force him eventually or shut it down
     
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  8. Zongadude

    Zongadude Music is the best

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    My point exactly. :sigh: :cry:
    I guess we'll see.
     
  9. NeilYoungFan

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    I'm on record as saying the subscription portion of the site will launch sometime in the fall (October 15th I believe). At this point in time, I'm highly confident it will launch. It won't be overwhelmingly different than it is now, but there will be some previously un-released stuff and a few other nuggets regarding live-streams, ephemera and a mobile app.

    Long term I don't see the site succeeding, but it will be around for a year or two (in my opinion), so let's enjoy it while we can..
    NYF
     
  10. Rasselas

    Rasselas “Neil Young Unreleased - NYU” on Facebook

    Hi all,

    In case anyone is remotely interested :), the latest version of my "Unofficial Archive", which among other things catalogues much of Neil's officially unreleased work, is now available in its very latest version with many revisions and new information, on

    Neil Young News: Neil Young's Unreleased Songs: The Unofficial Archive - UPDATE Vers. 5.2

    Even the NYA Archivist wrote to say "Thanks for sharing your work. It is a tremendous effort!"

    And you may also be interested in the Twitter feed on the same subject @ArchiveNeil though most of you will probably know the postings already. It is aimed rather more at the "non-hardcore" fans!

    Hope you enjoy working through all 127 pages of the Unofficial Archive!

    Best
    Rasselas
     
  11. FrankieFontaine

    FrankieFontaine "Just An Hippie Dream"

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    Neil is moving to his own label, Shakey Pictures Records, soon. Of course Warner will handle manufactuering and distribution.
     
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  12. RoyalPineapple

    RoyalPineapple It ain't me in the photo, babe.

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    Clearly Warner will still have significantly more invested interest than just manufacturing; otherwise why would they bother?
     
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  13. NeilYoungFan

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    Neil's a legacy artist, but one that sells virtually zero product. Who knows what the next steps will be, but on the face of it for now, Warner has no interest in completely distancing themselves from Neil..
    NYF
     
  14. Stone Turntable

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    Virtually Zero Product is the new working title for Archives II.
     
  15. Heart of Gold

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    TTN Live was released 3 months ago.
     
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  16. Heart of Gold

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    But I was expecting more product.
     
  17. NeilYoungFan

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    Neil releases product, it just doesn't sell...
    NYF
     
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  18. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    If he had only released it years ago....
     
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  19. NeilYoungFan

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    Hey, has anyone logged into the Archives site recently? I hadn't for a while, but I just logged in and there's only been one recent announcement, and it came today:

    Looks like Neil is acknowledging he needs Facebook and will likely remain on Facebook!

    At least that's my interpretation of his post. Loosely paraphrasing, he's basically saying he doesn't really trust them, but Facebook is where the "gazillion" music fans are, and Facebook offers easy access into the Archives, etc...

    I could be wrong, but this seems like the beginning of the "crack" in the Archives concept. Has reality set in even before the incredibly modest pay model is launched?
    NYF
     
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  20. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Independent Head

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    No.

    Also, I'm no Gort, but veering into discussing the ptos and cons of Facebook is probably a no-go area. I'll just say that I can't recall anything suggesting that the subscription Archives somehow entailed renouncing Facebook as a way to communicate with Neil Young fans.

    In general this thread is reminding me of the "Bruce Springsteen — The Candid Discussion," in which "candid" translates as relishing every possible flaw, misstep, dire predictions, and assumptions of unbridled greed and incompetence that supposed fans can come up with.
     
  21. James Bennett

    James Bennett Forum Resident

    Music Direct just sent out ads for Hawks and Doves, Reactor and This Notes for You on vinyl from Reprise - what are the chances these are cut from the masters? I’ve always wondered, too, why Neil isn’t on board with the advertising of some of his vinyl, too.

    Available Aug24.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2018
  22. qtrules

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    more ORS releases? that would be sweet!!
     
  23. jason202

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    Very interesting. I wonder if this signals the end of the box sets. That would be disappointing.
     
  24. NeilYoungFan

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    Relax. Re: FB, Neil announced he was leaving it prior to the Arvhives; now it seems as if he's changed his mind...

    That's all, I hope the Archives is a success.
    NYF
     
  25. Graham

    Graham Senior Member

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    That’s in 2 weeks. Seems a bit soon, but great news nonetheless. Also appears to leapfrog the Geffen years.
     
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