New Analogue Productions Nat King Cole vinyl: "Mixing directly to 45 RPM lacquer" adventures!

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  1. Steve Hoffman

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    As some of you know, Kevin Gray and I have been working on a bunch of wonderful Nat "King" Cole Capitol Records' reissues for Acoustic Sounds/Analogue Productions over the past 1/2 year. We are doing three-channel surround SACD's direct from three-track tapes with a two-channel and CD layer plus some extra-special 45 RPM 180 gram vinyl. So you will be able to hear Nat coming out of your center channel (on the three-channel SACD layer) and nicely balanced on your CD and SACD two channel layers and then on the uniquely mixed vinyl versions. Get an SACD player.

    Do you have a turntable? If you are on the fence about getting one, I would do it if you love Nat. These records are going to be just killer and that is not just hot wind from a mastering engineer. The unique thing about these albums that will be on vinyl is the fact that the mixes will be unique, having been done by mastering the three-channel tapes DIRECTLY to the lacquer without any second-step "master" mixes to tape being done ahead of time.

    In other words, the mixes that were cut into the acetate lacquers for pressing into records are unique, differing from our SACD/CD versions by the very nature of the mastering process. And yes, if we have to do recuts, THOSE sides will be slightly different mixes as well. This is an opportunity to get about as close to the voice of Nat Cole as humanly possible on this earth.

    When Chad, founder of Acoustic Sounds/Analogue Productions came to Kevin and I with the idea of doing some Nat Cole reissues he just came out and asked me if I could top myself and do better than the DCC Gold CD and vinyl versions I did about 10 years ago. I told him YES. He then asked if we could possibly cut records directly from a three-track 1/2" unmixed tape and I said that it would be very tricky but it had been done before (Decca, USA cut their stereo albums from the three-track from 1958-63) and could probably be done again with some new gear. Those old Decca tapes already had EQ and echo right on them so it was easier. We would have to build an echo chamber and do all the mixing, EQ'ing, etc. live as we were cutting. Gulp. It sounded like a fun challange...:angel::eek:

    So, having committed Kevin (which he has yet to forgive me for) we set about to see if we could cut a record from a tape with more than two channels. You see, the preview heads of the analog tape machine have to reproduce all the information a split second before it hits the actual playback heads so the computer knows what is coming, sound wise and then open or close the groove on the acetate, getting the most sound on a side of a disk. This "Margin Control" (as the Mercury Living Presence records used to call it) has been around for a long time (since the 1950s) but no system exists to do more than two channels at once. So, Kevin just went ahead and BUILT A NEW CUTTING SYSTEM (including two sets of custom three-track heads and triple EQ rack) especially for these Nat "King" Cole albums to be cut to vinyl from their original sessions.

    In the old days at Capitol a song would have been recorded on the three-track machine (music left, voice center, music right) and then that tape would have been "reduced" or mixed as we call it today on to a new two-track tape with the center channel split evenly between the left and right, giving a phantom center. Echo, EQ and compression would have been added at the same time on to the two track mix to give it the right amount of "Hi-Fi" for the era. This usually meant drenching everything in reverberation until all the detail and intimacy was obscured.

    In the 1990s I bypassed the old mixes for the DCC Gold CD and LP versions of three Nat albums and thought they came out nicely, revealing a hidden magic in the original sessions that was lacking on the old mixes. However, I still had to remix the songs one by one on to a new tape and then cut records from that. (Did you see the CNN report back in 1997 on audiophile vinyl? It showcased Kevin and I at Future Disk Systems working on Nat's "LOVE IS THE THING" album for the new "vinyl revival".)

    Acoustic Sounds wanted us to go to the next step this time and not only bypass the original flawed (drenched in reverb and compression) mixes but also bypass ANY and all mixes and go directly to vinyl DOING THE MIX LIVE AS WE WERE CUTTING. Yikes.

    Well, that's what we did even though it was the biggest, most draining pain in the butt either of us ever experienced. I realized that if I made a mixing mistake or Kevin made a cutting error on the side we were working we would have to stop and start the side over. At 45 RPM we put three songs on a side and that was the most I could handle in one sitting anyway. By the last part of that third song I was ready to scream if I missed a mixing cue. I did my homework very well and knew most of those songs totally by heart but still we blew lacquers like crazy (what with not using any overall compression or anything); one over-mod peak and the groove could break. Nat's voice was VERY dynamic.

    So last Thursday Rick Hashimoto of Record Tech in Camarillo gave me the fresh test pressings on a few of these 45's and today I got up courage and cracked the seal on JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS (with Billy May and his orchestra) and to my delight (trying hard to listen to it dispassionately) it sounded ****ing magical. I mean I yelled to my wife to come upstairs and listen to this thing and I haven't done that in years. It sounded like Nat Cole was freaking standing right there. Gave me a chill, dudes. It's like it was 1957 and I was at Capitol Studio A sitting directly in front of Nat and the band (see photo in my post #2 with Billy May and the gang). Man, I can't wait to hear the rest of these.

    So, we've done the following for SACD three channel/two channel hybrids and 45 RPM vinyl:

    1956, After Midnight (mono with 6 bonus tracks from original sessions)
    1956, Love Is The Thing (with complete original 12 "Closed miked" mono mixes as bonus tracks on the SACD version)
    1957, Just One Of Those Things (with YOU'LL NEVER KNOW bonus track, rejected from original session)
    1958, Songs From "St. Louis Blues" (Overture restored for first time since 1958)
    1958, The Very Thought Of You (with bonus tracks DON'T BLAME ME, THERE IS NO GREATER LOVE, rejected from original session)
    1962, Where Did Everyone Go? (with bonus tracks HAPPY NEW YEAR and A FAREWELL TO ARMS rejected from original session)
    1961, The Nat "King" Cole Story, three-volume set (36 songs with bonus tracks RAMBLIN' ROSE and THOSE LAZY-CRAZY-HAZY DAYS OF SUMMER, making 38 songs in all) (This will be a 10 record vinyl set and two SACD set)

    Friends, if you love Nat Cole you will be all over these but even if you are just a fan of recordings from the Golden Age Of Hi-Fi you should check these out; it's amazing music and the sound quality (as engineered by John Kraus, Pete Abbott and the Capitol Tower engineering staff of the 1950's and 1960's) will knock you out.

    All songs produced by Lee Gillette (an amazing A&R man who produced every NKC record starting in the early 1940's). Please note that our release of the three Nat Cole/Gordon Jenkins collaborations (LOVE IS THE THING, THE VERY THOUGHT OF YOU and WHERE DID EVERYONE GO?) fulfills a cherished dream of mine so thank you Chad and Acoustic Sounds/Analogue Productions for agreeing to it..

    A note regarding the recording of LOVE IS THE THING in December of 1956:

    This was the first Nat Cole to be recorded in both mono AND stereo and a number one selling album in 1957. It was recorded with two microphone setups, the mono being multi-miked, fully mixed as it was being recorded as done from the downstairs control room. The stereo "binaural" version was done in the snack room lounge upstairs from Studio A using an Ampex 300-3 and three microphones (for far-left orchestra, far-right orchestra and Nat's voice-split feed from mono microphone). The two versions differ in sonics due to this unique way of "double recording". Please note that the original stereo mixes of LOVE IS THE THING were done in January, 1957 at 7 1/2 ips for the open reel two-track release of the album. These wonderful mixes were light on reverb, fully dynamic and quite wonderful (try and find the commercial two-track tape on eBay, it's neat). When the stereo LP came out years later this tape was destroyed (deemed too dynamic for record cutting) and a new wimpy-butt stereo mix was done in 1959, taming the dynamics and EQ'd to sound muddy and uninvolving. My goal in remixing LOVE IS THE THING was to get it to sound like the original reel-to-reel version but with much better signal to noise, etc. I think I succeeded. We are also including the original monaural masters on our SACD/CD version as a bonus. This mono presentation of LOVE IS THE THING is the first to be released since 1957.

    These projects were time-consuming and quite challenging. However, as Gordon Jenkins wrote (and Nat Cole sang) .."But when I look back upon it from a distance, it wasn't too bad...."
     

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  2. Steve Hoffman

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    At the bottom of this post:

    Photos of the other two album covers (and a record that Kevin bashed over my head after putting him through this 9 month ordeal) plus BILLY MAY conducting in Studio A and NKC during the December, 1956 recording sessions for "LOVE IS THE THING", courtesy of a generous SH FORUMS member.

    We have many shots of our in-studio efforts but those are controlled by Acoustic Sounds and we will leave it to them to publish..

    A special thanks to SH Forum members Jtaylor and especially Apileocole for some amazing help. Thanks for keeping the secret all these long months. Check out these two helpful Nat Cole discogs:

    http://apileocole.alongthehall.com/
    http://www.classictvinfo.com/NKCDiscography/

    Please direct all inquiries about RELEASE DATES to Acoustic Sounds. Thanks.
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    Acoustic Sounds/Analogue Productions NAT “KING” COLE projects complete song list subject to change at any time.

    Capitol LP W-782 AFTER MIDNIGHT mono recording/King Cole Trio plus an all-star group.

    Just You, Just Me
    Sweet Lorraine
    Sometimes I’m Happy
    Caravan
    It’s Only A Paper Moon
    You’re Looking At Me
    Lonely One
    Don’t Let It Go To Your Head
    I Know That You Know
    Blame It On My Youth
    When I Grow Too Old To Dream
    (Get Your Kicks On) Route 66

    Bonus tracks from AFTER MIDNIGHT sessions:

    I Was A Little Too Lonely (And You Were A Little Too Late)
    You Can Depend On Me
    What Is There To Say
    Two Loves Have I
    Candy
    You’re Looking At Me, Alternate take

    Capitol LP SW-824 LOVE IS THE THING mono and stereo versions/Gordon Jenkins

    When I Fall In Love
    Stardust
    Stay As Sweet As You Are
    Where Can I Go Without You?
    Maybe It’s Because I Love You Too Much (mono only)
    Love Letters (mono only)
    Ain’t Misbehavin’
    I Thought About Marie
    At Last
    It’s All In The Game
    When Sunny Gets Blue
    Love Is The Thing

    Capitol LP SW-903 JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS stereo/Billy May

    When Your Lover Has Gone
    A Cottage For Sale
    Who’s Sorry Now?
    Once In A While
    These Foolish Things Remind Me Of You
    Just For The Fun Of It
    Don’t Get Around Much Anymore
    I Understand
    Just One Of Those Things
    The Song Is Ended
    I Should Care
    The Party’s Over

    Bonus Track from the JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS sessions:
    You’ll Never Know (unissued)

    Capitol LP SW-993 NAT “KING” COLE SINGS SONGS FROM ‘ST. LOUIS BLUES’ stereo/Nelson Riddle

    Overture (introducing “Love Theme” and “Hesitation Blues”) (long version restored)
    Harlem Blues
    Chantez Les Bas
    Friendless Blues
    Stay
    Joe Turner’s Blues
    Beale Street Blues
    Careless Love Morning Star
    Memphis Blues
    Yellow Dog Blues
    St. Louis Blues

    Capitol LP SW-1084 THE VERY THOUGHT OF YOU stereo/Gordon Jenkins

    The Very Thought Of You
    But Beautiful
    Impossible
    I Wish I Knew
    I Found A Million Dollar Baby
    Magnificent Obsession
    My Heart Tells Me
    Paradise
    This Is All I Ask
    Cherie, I Love You
    Making Believe You’re Here
    Cherchez La Femme
    For All We Know
    The More I See You

    Bonus tracks from THE VERY THOUGHT OF YOU sessions:
    Don’t Blame Me (unissued)
    There Is No Greater Love (unissued)

    Capitol LP SW-1859 WHERE DID EVERYONE GO? stereo/Gordon Jenkins

    Where Did Everyone Go?
    Say It Isn’t So
    If Love Ain’t There
    (Ah, The Apple Trees) When The World Was Young
    Am I Blue?
    Someone To Tell It To
    The End Of A Love Affair
    I Keep Goin’ Back To Joe’s
    Laughing On The Outside (Crying On The Inside)
    No, I Don’t Want Her
    Spring Is Here
    That’s All There Is

    Bonus tracks from the WHERE DID EVERYONE GO? sessions:
    A Farewell To Arms (unissued)
    Happy New Year (unissued)

    Capitol LP set SWCL-1613 THE NAT “KING” COLE STORY stereo/Ralph Carmichael, etc.

    Straighten Up And Fly Right
    Sweet Lorraine
    It's Only A Paper Moon
    (Get Your Kicks On) Route 66
    (I Love You) For Sentimental Reasons
    The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)
    Nature Boy
    Lush Life (Pete Rugolo conducts)
    Calypso Blues
    Mona Lisa
    Orange Colored Sky - two track only, no surround version (Stan Kenton conducts)
    Too Young
    Unforgettable
    Somewhere Along The Way
    Walkin’ My Baby Back Home (Billy May conducts)
    Pretend
    Blue Gardenia
    I Am In Love
    Answer Me, My Love
    Smile
    Darling, Je Vous Aime Beaucoup
    The Sand And The Sea
    If I May
    A Blossom Fell
    To The Ends Of The Earth
    Night Lights
    Ballerina
    Stardust (Gordon Jenkins conducts)
    Send For Me
    St. Louis Blues (Nelson Riddle conducts)
    Looking Back
    Non Dimenticar (Don’t Forget) (Nelson Riddle conducts)
    Paradise (Gordon Jenkins conducts)
    Oh, Mary, Don’t You Weep - two track only, no surround version (Gordon Jenkins conducts choir)
    Ay, Cosita Linda - two track only, no surround version (Dave Cavanaugh)
    Wild Is Love (intro and song), two track intro and three track edited together (Nelson Riddle conducts)
    Ramblin’ Rose (Belford C. Hendricks conducts)
    Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days Of Summer
     

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  3. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    :righton:

    Steve....That's great news. And great timing. I was just about to pull the trigger and spend some crazy money on a DCC gold Love Is The Thing.
     
  4. Mike the Fish

    Mike the Fish Señor Member

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    Hmm - I've not bought any acoustic sounds stuff - if these have the right tracks on (for my NKC tastes that is) then I could be interested!
     
  5. -Alan

    -Alan Senior Member

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    Thanks for all of the hard work that's gone into these releases. I'm sure I'll be enjoying these releases for many years to come! Especially looking forward to The Nat King Cole Story, my introduction to the great NKC.
     
  6. dolstein

    dolstein Senior Member

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    Steve --

    I'm looking forward to these. Are there any other artists you have in mind for the 3-track direct to LP treatment? I suppose Sinatra would be out of the question.
     
  7. Togo

    Togo Same as it ever was

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    You are really on a roll right now, Steve. Thanks so much for this great news and a very interesting post. Long may it continue! Some Sinatra, Crosby and Billie Holiday would also be great - we don't ask for much hereabouts do we!:cool:
     
  8. johnny33

    johnny33 New Member

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    WOW! From my posts you know Im a big Nat King Cole fan and DCC only made me more of one. Ive always told anyone who would ask or listen that the DCC's were the best mastering Ive ever heard. I cant imagine it getting better than those. But apparently we are in for a treat!

    I am tired just reading what you guys went through to master this way. wow. Thanks for the effort.

    Steve, do I understand that even the Nat King Cole Story will be on 180 grm 45's?? If so, thats going to be a monster set.

    I cannot wait... excellent excellent.


    Also, this should be a sticky imo... :)
     
  9. I don't have any Nat King Cole in my collection yet. I was always on the lookout for the DCC's, but they were just too expensive for me.

    Will the music on the new SACD's pretty much cover the songs which were on the three gold DCC's? I might just buy all of these SACD's and I was wondering if I can then forget to worry about the DCC's.
     
  10. johnny33

    johnny33 New Member

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    Pretty much Roland. The only set that isnt being done that came out on DCC is the GH's collection. And the only song from the GHs that isnt found on the Nat King Cole Story appears to be " You call it madness ( But I call it love)"
     
  11. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

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    Sounds like a great listening experience.

    Since the two track tape with the original mix is the mix OK'd by the artist and producer, do you know if it is availalbe on the original CD? It will be nice to have both versions.
     
  12. apileocole

    apileocole Lush Life Gort

    and of mine. :) A fantastic, fascinating project on so many levels. I've complete confidence these truly are editions fit for a King, produced by the finest in the realm. Steve, I can't say "you'll never know how much I care" as you know how I feel about this, which is fortunate since words don't quite cover it... I'd also like to extend fondest appreciations to Kevin, whose distinctive accomplishment (plural, in this case) justifies the utmost pride, to Chad and to the folks at Acoustic Sounds and Analogue Productions.

    Mind-blowing. :nauga:
     
  13. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    I laughed when I saw the broken 78 rpm record. Thank you Steve and Kevin. I will always see that broken 78, when I think of "Margin Control".

    Oh man, I am so looking forward to both the uniquely mixed vinyl and the multi-layered SACD.

    Luckily I went out and bought a SACD player last month. And I already have the turntable running. Bring it on!
     
  14. Thanks, good to know. I will pick these SACD's up and probably can get all of them for the price of one DCC. I would expect the prices for the DCC's to drop, but maybe not.
     
  15. apileocole

    apileocole Lush Life Gort

    Some more about these releases may be gleaned from this thread:
    http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=166825

    To those unfamiliar with them, the bonus tracks are also worth attention here. The Nat King Cole Story is enhanced by two of his biggest subsequent hit singles. The bonus tracks for After Midnight, Just One of Those Things, The Very Thought of You and Where Did Everyone Go? are completed tracks very much cut from the same cloth as those that were on the original LP, indeed they're even from the same sessions. None are rough/poor rejects and in most cases their exclusion seems to have been down to space restraints - Nat & Co. were just too good. :angel:

    :wave:
    Well, in these cases at that time, it may be the playbacks the artists and producer heard were the mono and, if heard by either, the straight 3 tracks. The two-tracks were often done after the sessions without artist and perhaps without producer present. The two-track stereo versions may be seen as a more historic than creative interest, if that makes sense.

    The biggest exception of these is Love Is The Thing. The mono and stereo pickups vary the most dramatically, so the original mono, also available on the SACD, is of particular value. Also, it had two two-track mixes: the original, released only on open reel, was done with care and sounded great, but that master no longer exists; the second was an after-the-fact for later LP release, the above paragraph applies to it. Therefore IMH, Steve's mix for the stereo and the original mono will cover it nicely.
     
  16. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

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    Thanks for the info. "Love Is The Thing" is the one I am most interested in. History is important. Does the CD have the original stereo mixes? I have the original Larry Walsh remastered Love Is The Thing CD with three bonus tracks from Where Did Everyone Go? (according to the notes). Two of the fifteen songs are mono.
     
  17. Simon A

    Simon A Arrr!

    Chris must have read my mind when he wrote this.

    Thank you! :righton:
     
  18. apileocole

    apileocole Lush Life Gort

    Ah. No the CD doesn't have the old 2-track mixes. Larry also remixed it. The original 2-track (open reel) master is gone and there's no CD of the 2nd 2-track (LP) mix. Every CD comp I can recall also uses a remix. Don't recall any CDs with the 2-tracks of any of the others except Where Did Everyone Go? (not surprisingly since it had the best sounding original 2-track of any of those). That's on the EMI UK two-fer CD of it, not the current CD. A fair mastering of it. To anyone else reading I might point out that Steve's remixes will be blowing away the old 2-track mixes sonically.

    The Love Is The Thing sessions were among the earliest stereo recordings at the (itself recently opened) Tower. Largely seperate stereo and mono pickups (and monitoring, the stereo was being taped in a separate booth). For the first two tracks of the sessions, the stereo setup was having technical problems. So those two tracks were unfortunately not captured in stereo.
     
  19. detroit muscle

    detroit muscle MIA

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    Will the Nat King Cole Story be a single SACD (will it fit on one disc?) or a double?
     
  20. apileocole

    apileocole Lush Life Gort

    I was thinking in stereo; was wondering where that other channel was coming from. :winkgrin: :angel:
     
  21. apileocole

    apileocole Lush Life Gort

    afaik, double. :)
     
  22. TSmithPage

    TSmithPage Ex Post Facto Member

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    I want them all on SACD...yesterday!
     
  23. Steel Horse

    Steel Horse Forum Resident

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    Very exciting news. Sounds like Steve has a very busy year......... Good for us anyway.
     
  24. BITBANGER

    BITBANGER Senior Member

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    Oh Boy!
     
  25. violarules

    violarules Senior Member

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    Baltimore, MD
    Oh my goodness... I have no idea how I'm going to afford these, but I absolutely have to have them. I love Nat... this is a dream release for me! Thanks to Steve and Kevin and Chad at AP... I can't wait!!!! :goodie:
     
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