Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by stever, Jan 14, 2004.
Ah, that makes sense.
This is all second- or third-hand information, so take it with as many grains of salt as you wish.
The explanation I heard at the time was that Camden wanted to include lots of unreleased material, but BMG's New York division was less than cooperative about supplying it. The only reason Camden lucked out with Nilsson Schmilsson was because the album was recorded in England, and Harry had left his demos behind.
(The two demos on Camden's Son of Schmilsson were part of the Nilsson Schmilsson batch.)
So the bonus tracks are from the masters and it sounds like the album is from a store bought cassette. Seems fair enough.
You know, I'd always wondered why out of all the songs recorded for Son Of Schmillson, we got two demos of "Joy". Makes sense now.
Time to get Vic working on Son Of Schmillson, too!
That CD is sad. Talk about a smiley faced EQ setting. Hold your ears kiddies.
Thanks for the sample. The only version I had ever heard was the Camden version. I always thought the CD sounded terrible but I didn't realize it sounded THAT bad. Yowza! I'm going out to buy the remaster after work.
Under these less than ideal test circumstances (mp3's played on my rather crappy pc speakers), I must say that I would still give the nod to the MFSL. The midrange is more appealing/musical. I actually think that Nilsson Schmilsson is one of the best MFSL's I've heard. I look forward to comparing the two on my real music system once I get the new cd.
You're going to enjoy both. They're just different versions of good. I have a slight preference for Vic's mastering although I've enjoyed the MFSL for a while now.
Jamie - could you compare the MoFi (which I have) to the recent remaster? What are they doing differently???
There's more top end EQ on the MFSL. It has that usual MoFi sound to it. You can hear the rise around the 12kHz + range. I noticed it in the tape hiss. I remember Steve explaining (and it makes perfect sense) that you can really detect EQ with white noise such as tape hiss. I also noticed a bit more edge/brittleness in the acoustic guitars in the Moonbeam Song and in the overall piano tone. There's also more air in the vocals (that stuff Steve hates). I think Vic has a more accurate and cohesive picture of what this album really sounds like. Mind you, these differences are slight but audible.
Have you ever listened to Steve and Vic's versions of The Point? Both are excellent and either would satisfy most listeners. Same here.
Another thing for everyone without the MFSL disc to consider is the MoFi goes for a lot of money now and has no extras whereas this new version has great bonus tracks and can be found for $12.
I guess this will be sort of off-topic, but I've only ever heard this album from the RCA Dyna-Flex vinyl!
For those that are too young, Dyna Flex was almost like those give away plastic sheets that were stuck inside magazines in the early '70's...
Anyway, solid and heavy they were not (audio-wise!), but the music came through, I have loved this album for over thirty years!!! AND I still have the 12"x24" poster of Harry in his bath-robe, which anybody important should be impressed by!
Funny all the sonic flavors this record has been heard in. Hope they get it really right at some point...
From what I gather, they just did...
Now that I've re-read the thread I see you're right.
Can someone post the label and number of this new Anesini disc? It's a U.S. release, right? Thanks!
In these samples, I'm hearing a little more "heaviness" in the bass on the MoFi as well. Just a little thickening or warming, but it doesn't sound necessary to me. Anesini's mastering sounds much more relaxed and engaging. The vocals are especially nice, as they should be given this artist. By comparison, the MoFi puts an edge there.
Judging from these samples, it's the Anesini for me! Thanks for posting them, Jamie.
Thanks reechie! Just snagged it along with the Tommy SACD which I didn't have yet...
Thanks for the heads up on this one Jamie. It would have slipped under my radar if not for this thread. I love this place!!!!!
Same here. Thanks Jamie. I just picked this up after work. The only copy I had heard before was the Camden one. I assumed that was a good as it got. I'm glad I was wrong!
Thanks to Stever for reminding me it came out.
Can you guys tell I love this album?
Jeez.. I just heard your MP3 Jamie. What happened to that last sample?!? Take your finger off the reel!
Does the new remaster have that weird false start on Jump Into the Fire like the MoFi has (why do I wanna type MoFo???)??? Completists might need to have both discs if the new remaster ain't got it (I'm kinda fond of this album meself)...
No, it has the normal version. What's up with the extended version on the MoFo?... Damn I did it too.
Sorry, I cleaned the heads with Vaseline and Elmer's paste. I used to use Crisco® and that "buttery" WD-40 sauce they use for theater popcorn.
Beautiful disc...just beautiful.
CDUniverse is currently selling it for $9.79
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