Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory deluxe reissues announced

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  1. liammuc

    liammuc Forum Resident

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    What do mean with this? For me brickwalling means ****! I also don't like the fact that Oasis started the whole brickwall nonsens.
     
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  2. liammuc

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    Yeah, that mix is really good. Like that as well. That mix and the demos are what makes these remasters shine for me even though the sound quality of some demos could be better.
     
  3. apple-richard

    apple-richard *Overnight Sensation*

    I like the way the LPs sound. Two big slabs of wax of an overpowering sonic mess. I didn't expect anything less. It's not supposed to sound like Abbey Road. I'm not a fan of brickwalling either but on the other hand it wouldn't sound like Oasis unless it was in your face.
     
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  4. liammuc

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    I have to disagree with you on that one :)
    Just listen to "I Will Believe" from the original Supersonic CD-Single or all the songs from the Japan-Import CD-Single of "Some Might Say" - all have a dynamic range >10!
    The sound is fantastic - no brickwalling involved! They sound good on headphones and on any stereo system!
    And I Will Believe, Acquiesce, Headshrinker and Some Might Say are full in your face!
     
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  5. imthewalrus79

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    This whole re-release campaign has been a shambles, from the "remastering" done on both Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory and their B-sides to the selection of "rarities" for the sets to the packaging of the super deluxe sets. The 45 that came in my Definitely Maybe set. The label is so off center, the one side is unplayable. Ther's also glue residue all over the 7" cover. Then the 12" promo replica in my Morning Glory set has a huge scratch down the one side that causes the record to skip. I don't even know who I can contact to see if I can just replace those pieces rather than replace the whole set.
     
  6. pathosdrama

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    I don't think you can blame Oasis if the music industry decided to brickwall more or less every note since then. I see that kind of production as a self-aware maximalism, as their music needed to be huge, brash, in your face and blasted on every radio station in the country.
     
  7. Nick Dunning

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    Just played that. Beautiful. The bass is superb. Never heard it before.
     
  8. Dmdstrhalo

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    Got the LP. I appreciate the extra tracks that come with the download (or CD set), but the sequencing is a bit of a challenge: why not put all the acoustic demo tracks in a row, same with B-sides and then the live stuff? It's a bit herky-jerky having the constantly rotating dynamics. As for the actual album...wow...it's messy. "Cast No Shadow" sounds great though, perhaps due to the sparse arrangement. Some of the backing vocals, like the echoed leads for "Hello" and "Some Might Say," are utterly buried. I don't understand how these releases are helping the band's legacy. Sure, they were always loud, I get that, but this overkill cuts into the tunes, which I genuinely love. Starting to wonder if I like hearing Oasis more than I like listening to them, if ya know what I mean...yeah yeah.
     
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  9. Smiths22

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    :shake:
     
  10. So I got these as a belated congrats gift. While I enjoy the albums I can't say the mastering is any better to my ears. It's still compressed all to hell. It's not simply a matter of using the compression but, perhaps, some of the EQ choices as well. Love the songs just wish this was mastered better. They sound really harsh to my ears. Guess ill have to go back to the vinyl version to get decent sound which I find a bit....sad that I have to go to another format to enjoy the music.
     
  11. imthewalrus79

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    An amazing version of a classic song. I love how he allows every instrument in the song to come through, including that amazing bass line that's completely buried in Owen Morris' mix, and yet he manages to not make it sound that different. I wouldn't mind if they let him loose on the whole album to mix it like that.
     
  12. GreatKingRat

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    Aside from the Brendan Lynch mix of Champagne Supernova, I think the bonus tracks on this release are just utterly boring and pointless. I have little interest in random tracks taken from live gigs, and the acoustic demos are poor quality and hardly interesting to begin with. There's clearly been a decision from the top to hold back all interesting demos and outtakes for a future boxset, or they've just no interest in letting out much of interest for whatever reason. Which I think is disgusting, because NO ONE is going to be buying any of these Oasis re-issues due to them being remastered.... most people will already be happy with the original releases.
     
  13. Smiths22

    Smiths22 Well-Known Member

    I don't think so....
     
  14. Mike D'Aversa

    Mike D'Aversa Senior Member

    While it's nice to hear the different parts, IMO, it suffers precisely because of that.

    I find it disjointed and patently inferior to the original (despite it's sonic shortcomings).

    If their going to do a remix, I'd prefer it to be much more conservative & faithful to the originals...
     
  15. These remasters sound plain weird. I think I'll stick to my original CDs. What the heck did Ian Cooper do? Turn up the dials and leave the room when he mastered these?
     
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  16. GreatKingRat

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    I'm fairly sure the majority of people who like the album have never thought it was mastered too loud or anything or cared about such a thing. That these re-issues are re-mastered is a moot point.
     
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  17. Smiths22

    Smiths22 Well-Known Member

    I disagree, the main album is not all, these reissues have a cd2 and cd3 + a booklet.
     
  18. liammuc

    liammuc Forum Resident

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    Isn't that's how it's done nowadays? Turn up the dials and leave the room because you can't stand the loudness. :) It's a shame that 90 % of the people here in this forum could have done a better job on these remasters. But maybe we get the isolated tracks one day just like the beatles ones to make our own remasters. Until then I like listening to my vinyl rips.
    But then again - I like the demos on the new remasters!
     
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  19. liammuc

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    To be honest - Back in 1995 I always wondered why I had to put the volume way down after changing a "regular" CD for this Oasis album. But of course back then I knew nothing about loudness war and brickwalling.
     
  20. SteveS1

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    I was of the opinion that the original CD of What's The Story was as good as any modern reissue (outside of a specialist label) was likely to sound. Look like that's the case, I'll be keeping my pennies for more worthwhile reissues.
     
  21. Craig Williams

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    You wanted to be a in a pub with Oasis on jukebox. Their songs would come on louder than everybody else's causing everyone in the pub to **** themselves.
     
  22. liammuc

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    Wasn't that the intention? I think they wanted to be louder than everybody else. And in the pub nobody minds brickwalled music - maybe it even sounds better there because of the overall noise going on. But when I'm listening to the songs at home I think the songs sound a lot better with more dynamic range like the Some Might Say Import Single from Japan I mentioned before.
     
  23. therebelsell

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    It sounds like if I want to get this album on vinyl, the original pressing would be the one to find. Or is that one pretty badly mastered itself?
     
  24. liammuc

    liammuc Forum Resident

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    Unfortunately I never heard the original vinyl from 1995 but from what I've read it must be the best choice. Somebody posted his version in the DR database with a DR of 10 - which is almost audiophile for Oasis. But every vinyl version should beat the CD easily.
     
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  25. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    How does the vinyl sound compared
    to the original ?
     
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