OK, who's got the new WHO SACD?

"In a thread on audioasylum it was stated that the CD was most likely made from the analog master, while, obviously, the SACD was mastered directly from the DSD master."

I think that is the case by definition. What is the bigger issue is that there was a DSD created straight from the analog tape and not using a PCM intermediate. That appears to be the case here based on Shel's conversations.

Of course, I would ideally like to time travel back to the session carrying a Meitner ADC and do it straight to DSD with as few mics as possible, but that's another story...

 

After listening, it seems to be a less "hyped-up" version of the CD set. Didn't sound as compressed to me, and the vocals seemed smoother.

The mix is the same. I don't know why it doesn't bother me as much as everyone else here. I certainly respect the opinions being arrayed against it, but to me it sounds worlds better than the old mono CD. Perhaps I don't know what to listen for. Ah, well, your mileage may vary and all that.

Ryan

 

So this is a double cd on one sacd, right? I guess they can do this since there is no multichannel program. How long is the disc?

 

About 91 minutes, I think.

Ryan

 

More to point, does anybody have a track listing for the SACD? I've searched several sights, but have found no track listing.

 

I'm bringing this thread up to get some more opinions on the SACD now that people have lived with it for a while.

I don't own any Who material from this era (except SH's Meaty Beaty...) so is the SACD the way to go despite the controversial mixes?

Thanks
John

 

I have to agree with Mike. I like the sacd quite a bit, actually. It goes from home to work and back with me, I have Sony sacd players both places, so the only place I can't listen to it is in the car.

Not too loud or shrill, you can hear the warmth of the original pre-mixed multitracks.
Like all other Shel Talmy product, it is not bass-y in a Pet Sounds kind of way, but the bass is present and accounted for, even articulate.

I GAVE my redbook cd away to a friend, and warned him to turn up the bass when he played it.

My only regret is that I had to buy it twice to hear it correctly. The redbook cd is AWFUL!!!!

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I personally don't find the remix objectionable except for the missing guitar, tambourine & french horn overdubs.

 

I'm hoping the new "Collectors Who's Next" will also come out on a single disc SACD.
Let's hope.

Joe Lee

 

I agree with Mike and Thom. The guitar timbres are particularly nice on the SACD. I too understand the remix controversy, but for some reason I'm not as bothered by these remixes as Luke and some others.

My favorite on the SACD is "The Kids Are Alright," mainly for that lovely guitar tone.

 

Dittos to MikeT. I own both. Same feelings here as well. The SACD is better, so if you haven't got the CD yet, skip it and go for the SACD. Much better representation of the sound. The CD sounds fine, but the SACD has some improvement over the CD, and is noticeable immediately.