SH Spotlight Old Polydor CD "Strange Brew-The Very Best Of Cream" mastered by Dennis Drake. Best sound, cheap!

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Dec 25, 2016.

  1. Ok went hunting for the Cream CD. This is what was recommended:

    Buy Cream (2) - Strange Brew - The Very Best Of Cream (CD) at Discogs Marketplace

    I bought two copies today. Here’s the first copy:

    Cream (2) - Strange Brew - The Very Best Of Cream

    That one is a club edition.

    Here’s the second copy:

    Cream (2) - Strange Brew - The Very Best Of Cream

    Discogs says that is a club edition too, but it’s not marked as such anywhere on the CD or case. The first one I bought is clearly marked as a club CD.

    Both have the Drake mastering credit on the jacket.

    But…are they both mastered by him, or did they just use the same book for the different versions without changing the credits?
     
  2. George P

    George P Our DJ's Better Than All These Bands

    Location:
    NYC
    Do they both sound the same?

    Same peak levels? Same length?
     
  3. Can't speak about the peak levels as I have no way of figuring that out. But they sound the same to me, more or less
     
  4. George P

    George P Our DJ's Better Than All These Bands

    Location:
    NYC
    If you put them both in your player and observe the total time, that can give an indication that they are the same.
     
  5. marcel

    marcel Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Italy
    It's easy. All you have to do is downloading EAC and perform an analysis. EAC is freeware and easy to use.

    Exact Audio Copy
     
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  6. They're both 43:54
     
  7. George P

    George P Our DJ's Better Than All These Bands

    Location:
    NYC
    Ok, I think that is a good indication that they are the same mastering. But to be sure, you need to use EAC or XLD (for a MAC) to determine peak levels and see if they match.
     
  8. @George P But do you think they're both the Drake master?
     
  9. George P

    George P Our DJ's Better Than All These Bands

    Location:
    NYC
    I honestly don't know. Has anyone in this thread identified the total time and peak levels of a Drake mastering of Best Of Cream?
     
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  10. George P

    George P Our DJ's Better Than All These Bands

    Location:
    NYC
    Maybe:

     
  11. marcel

    marcel Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Italy
    For what it's worth, my USA Polydor with the Drake credit:

    Total time: 43:52:23


    EAC peak levels

    97.5 %
    100.0 %
    100.0 %
    100.0 %
    100.0 %
    100.0 %
    100.0 %
    96.7 %
    92.7 %
    100.0 %
    100.0 %
    88.1 %
     
  12. @marcel I downloaded the software. Can you tell me how to get those numbers?
     
  13. @marcel I think I maybe figured it out. I created a log and ripped just the first song of my two copies. Each one was 97.5% just like yours.
     
  14. marcel

    marcel Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Italy
    Insert the CD, select all the 12 tracks and then click on Action and Test selected tracks

    this screenshot taken from the www shows "copy image". "Test selected tracks" (what you need now) is above
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2017
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  15. George P

    George P Our DJ's Better Than All These Bands

    Location:
    NYC
    You need to check all of the numbers against his, for each track.
     
  16. marcel

    marcel Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Italy
    no need to rip the cd. When the analysis is finished, you can save the outcome as a text file with the EAC peak levels for all the 12 tracks
     
  17. @marcel Thanks! Working on it now. Will report back
     
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  18. marcel

    marcel Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Italy
    You're very welcome :)
     
  19. This is a BMG Music Service CD

    Track 1

    Peak level 97.5 %
    Extraction speed 1.9 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 70AB2802
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [7D4833BB] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 2

    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.1 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC A2FFAF89
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [18D9301A] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 3



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.3 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC 41A9CA30
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [62C194DA] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 4



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.6 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 25FAEDE3
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [581CC2A9] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 5



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.7 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC A93FA1FF
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [F1D1BDE9] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 6



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.9 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 3D88AC1D
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [BA265390] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 7



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.9 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC E17ADC1E
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [2F7817EB] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 8



    Peak level 96.7 %
    Extraction speed 3.1 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC E5B401CF
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [ECC1CFBF] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 9



    Peak level 92.7 %
    Extraction speed 3.1 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC 6CCBDB1C
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [46A23225] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 10



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.4 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 5D496A1E
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [ECB30CED] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 11



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.4 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 0D4D10B7
    Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [85A35B7B] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 12



    Peak level 88.1 %
    Extraction speed 3.6 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC A8C683E9
    Accurately ripped (confidence 21) [CED30C14] (AR v2)
    Copy OK
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2017
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  20. This is my second copy. Looks like they're identical

    Track 1


    Peak level 97.5 %
    Extraction speed 2.2 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 3F30B7D6
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [13A8FB31] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 2



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.4 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC 95018B25
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [6FADC13E] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 3



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.6 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC F9866E90
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [09F66E35] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 4



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 2.9 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 3A157434
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [8273D11F] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 5



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.0 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC 6B5E2789
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [CE2E0297] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 6



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.2 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC CCC66176
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [AD9154E4] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 7



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.2 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 0F4CD471
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [B74B5577] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 8



    Peak level 96.7 %
    Extraction speed 3.4 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC C9735283
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [5238E11C] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 9



    Peak level 92.7 %
    Extraction speed 3.5 X
    Track quality 99.9 %
    Test CRC 74500B9F
    Accurately ripped (confidence 11) [73CC72D7] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 10



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.7 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 230883CF
    Accurately ripped (confidence 11) [C395CB8E] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 11



    Peak level 100.0 %
    Extraction speed 3.7 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 44EE1227
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [7BB3202E] (AR v2)
    Copy OK

    Track 12



    Peak level 88.1 %
    Extraction speed 4.0 X
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 442F8A36
    Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [2D852AD3] (AR v2)
    Copy OK
     
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  21. tmtomh

    tmtomh Forum Resident

    Congrats - both of your copies are the Drake version!

    As an FYI, the one that doesn't look like/isn't marked as a club edition is a Columbia House club edition. The Columbia House editions often are not as clearly or consistently marked as the BMG ones. Sometimes there will be a small "CRC" on the face of the CD or on the back insert - but sometimes there won't be.

    The dead giveaway on your copy (based on the discogs images) is that the UPC numbers beneath the barcode on the rear insert are not the standard barcode number; in other words it's not the standard retail UPC - it's a special Columbia House one. You can tell at a glance because the font Columbia House used for the UPC digits is not the standard one used on most retail CDs.
     
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  22. marcel

    marcel Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Italy
    Thank you for checking and letting us know; much appreciated! :)
     
  23. SimonSaysCake

    SimonSaysCake Forum Resident

    Lady Luck paid me a visit today. Spotted a copy of "Strange Brew" but phone didn't work inside so couldn't verify it was Dennis' version (didn't realize his credit is on the back of the booklet). Bought it blind and lo and behold it's the Dennis Drake. Awesome! Thanks Steve and Dennis. :wave:

    -s1m0n-
     
  24. tommy-thewho

    tommy-thewho Forum Resident

    Location:
    detroit, mi
    Looked at my copy and it is the same one!!
     
  25. Chrome_Head

    Chrome_Head Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA.
    Got this CD as a kid when I used to be a member of BMG and get a clutch of really cheap CDs (it wasn't quite 10 CD's for a penny like Columbia House, but they were very cheap).

    I used to love it, it was my introduction to Cream, and I'm sure it's boxed up in my apartment with the rest of my CD's. Going to have to unearth it out now and see which version I have, thanks.
     

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