I have read the earlier threads, but I want to get the latest. I have a pair of old AR outdoor speakers that are about to give it up (the tiny 4" woofers are starting to rattle). I run my patio speakers off of my main system front end (see profile) but go into a little Creek A43 (50W/channel) amp and through 50 foot runs of what amounts to in wall cable (although it is not in wall) so I am not expecting award winning sound but I would like to get new outdoor speakers with better bass. I have heard that Niles, NHT and Klipsch all make pretty good outdoor speakers. Anyone have personal experience with any of these or others?