Paul McCartney Archive Collection - Tug Of War & Pipes Of Peace coming! (Part Two)

I wouldn't be opposed to some kind of "Best of the '80s" compilation. But it shouldn't be a part of the Archive series.

 

Nice overview. One quibble, though: my own preference would be to include the Live Aid and Prince's Trust live material elsewhere, earlier, and keep Tripping to just the core "Lumpy Trousers" band of the time. As such, Tripping could be fleshed out quite nicely with a disc of soundcheck material from that tour. Based on some underground discs of the time and an existing knowledge of what was played, there are some otherwise unavailable gems there that should see the light of day, plus some jams and improvisations that hold together very nicely too. It also would be in the spirit of the actual live album, since Paul chose to sprinkle some of those "trinkets" throughout the album already. Also, I'd guess that putting the "Get Back" tour film with Tripping would be a better idea, with the "Put It There" special (hopefully with extended performance footage and additional songs) on DVD rounding out the Flowers in the Dirt deluxe edition.

(An aside: your list cuts off with Off the Ground, but we can include Paul Is Live as a logical companion piece to that and, in the same vein as the above, probably easily fill another disc with soundcheck material from that tour too, along with the concert in Charlotte as the DVD content, again perhaps with additional material not shown on the TV broadcast at the time for logistical reasons.)

 

*mock anger* You're not supposed to re-evaluate the album till the deluxe comes out!!! Doh!

 

Because in most instances, people cannot agree on which mistakes truly are mistakes. I'll bet you whatever you like that for each track someone describes as a mistake, someone else will find it golden. Just look at those misguided fools who think What's That You're Doing is a worthy track...

 

Imo the albums released are what they are-warts and all. Don t see any point in changing that and remove tracks that(some) consider not worthy. It s like putting colour on black and white movies. Why?

 

I've mentioned before, that there really needs to be an "All The Best, Vol 2". But there's the fear that it would delay the Archive series even further...

 

Here's a compilation series I made for a mate who didn't like McCartney.
It was the best gift he ever received, he later declared.

Disk 1 :: 1970-1973

1. The Lovely Linda McCartney - 4/70
2. Every Night McCartney - 4/70
3. Junk McCartney - 4/70
4. Maybe I’m Amazed McCartney - 4/70
5. Another Day single - 2/71
6. Too Many People Ram - 5/71
7. Heart of The Country Ram - 5/71
8. Eat At Home Ram - 5/71
9. Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey Ram - 5/71
10. Back Seat Of My Car Ram - 5/71
11. Tomorrow Wild Life - 12/71
12. Some People Never Know Wild Life - 12/71
13. Give Ireland Back To The Irish single - 2/72
14. Mary Had A Little Lamb single - 5/72
15. Little Woman Love b-kant single - 5/72
16. The Mess Live in Den Haag - 8/72
17. Hi Hi Hi single - 11/72
18. C Moon b-kant single - 11/72
19. My Love Red Rose Speedway - 4/73
20. Country Dreamer outtake Red Rose Speedway sessies
21. Live And Let Die single - 6/73


Disk 2 :: 1973-1978

1. Helen Wheels single - 10/73
2. Band On The Run Band On The Run - 12/73
3. Jet Band On The Run - 12/73
4. Mrs. Vanderbilt Band On The Run - 12/73
5. Let Me Roll It Band On The Run - 12/73
6. Junior’s Farm single - 10/74
7. Venus And Mars/Rock Show Venus And Mars - 5/75
8. Letting Go Venus And Mars - 5/75
9. Listen To What The Man Said Venus And Mars - 5/75
10. Let ’Em In Wings At The Speed of Sound - 3/76
11. Silly Love Songs Wings At The Speed of Sound - 3/76
12. Lady Madonna Wings Over America - 12/76
13. I’ve Just Seen A Face Wings Over America - 12/76
14. Mull Of Kintyre single - 11/77
15. London Town London Town - 3/78
16. I’m Carrying London Town - 3/78
17. Waterspout outtake London Town sessies
18. With A Little Luck London Town - 3/78
19. I’ve Had Enough London Town - 3/78


Disk 3 :: 1979-1984

1. Goodnight Tonight 12” single - 3/79
2. Daytime Nightime Suffering b-kant single - 3/79
3. Getting Closer Back To The Egg - 6/79
4. Old Siam, Sir Back To The Egg - 6/79
5. Arrow Through Me Back To The Egg - 6/79
6. Wonderful Christmas Time single - 11/79
7. Coming Up McCartney II - 4/80
8. Waterfalls McCartney II - 4/80
9. Ebony And Ivory Tug Of War - 4/82
10. Tug Of War Tug Of War - 4/82
11. Take It Away Tug Of War - 4/82
12. Here Today Tug Of War - 4/82
13. Ballroom Dancing Tug Of War - 4/82
14. Wanderlust Tug Of War - 4/82
15. Pipes Of Peace Pipes Of Peace - 10/83
16. Say Say Say Pipes Of Peace - 10/83
17. No More Lonely Nights Give My Regards to Broad Street - 10/84
18. We All Stand Together single - 11/84


Disk 4 :: 1986-1990

1. Spies Like Us single -11/85
2. Press (single mix) single - 7/86
3. It’s Not True b-kant single - 7/86
4. Stranglehold Press To Play - 8/86
5. Pretty Little Head (single mix) Press To Play - 8/86
6. Footprints Press To Play - 8/86
7. Only Love Remains (single mix) single - 2/87
8. Tough On A Tightrope b-kant single - 2/87
9. Once Upon A Long Ago single - 11/87
10. Back On My Feet b-kant single -11/87
11. My Brave Face Flowers In The Dirt - 6/89
12. Flying To My Home b-kant single - 5/89
13. Put It There Flowers In The Dirt - 6/89
14. This One Flowers In The Dirt - 6/89
15. We Got Married Flowers In The Dirt - 6/89
16. Figure Of Eight single - 11/89
17. Strawberry Fields Forever/Help!/Give Peace A Chance 10/90


Disk 5 :: 1991-1998

1. Midnight Special Unplugged - 5/91
2. Singing The Blues Unplugged - 5/91
3. Hope Of Deliverance single – 12/92
4. Kicked Around No More b-kant single -12/92
5. The Lovers That Never Were Off The Ground – 2/93
6. Off The Ground Off The Ground – 2/93
7. Peace In The Neighborhood Paul Is Live – 11/93
8. C’mon People Paul Is Live – 11/93
9. Come Together The Help Album – 9/95
10. The World Tonight Flaming Pie – 5/97
11. Young Boy Flaming Pie – 5/97
12. The Songs We Were Singing Flaming Pie – 5/97
13. Somedays Flaming Pie – 5/97
14. Souvenir Flaming Pie – 5/97
15. Little Willow Flaming Pie – 5/97
16. Beautiful Night Flaming Pie – 5/97
17. Calico Skies Flaming Pie – 5/97
18. A Room With A View The Songs of Noël Coward – 4/98


Disk 6 :: 1999-2013

1. No Other Baby Run Devil Run – 10/99
2. Lonesome Town Run Devil Run – 10/99
3. Try Not To Cry Run Devil Run – 10/99
4. Maybe Baby OST Maybe Baby - 6/00
5. That’s All Right, Mama The Legacy Of Sun Records – 10/01
6. From A Lover To A Friend single -10/01
7. Heather Driving Rain – 11/01
8. Vanilla Sky OST Vanilla Sky – 12/01
9. Something Back In The US – 11/02
10. All Things Must Pass Concert For George – 11/03
11. Fine Line Chaos And Creation In The Back Yard – 9/05
12. Jenny Wren Chaos And Creation In The Back Yard – 9/05
13. Friends To Go Chaos And Creation In The Back Yard – 9/05
14. Ever Present Past Memory Almost Full – 6/07
15. Dance Tonight Memory Almost Full – 6/07
16. Only Mama Knows Amoeba’s Secret – 6/07
17. Nothing Too Much Just Out Of Sight Electric Arguments -11/08
18. Sing The Changes Electric Arguments -11/08
19. Travelling Light Electric Arguments – 11/80
20. My Valentine Kisses On The Bottom – 2/12
21. New New – 10/13
22. Queenie Eye New – 10/13
23. Early Days New – 10/13

Perhaps cd's 3 & 4 could qualify as a Macca's Best of the Eighties comp?

 

Exactly.

You will have to call me 'misguided fool' from now on, because I really like What's That You're Doing. It will go nicely with the name that I was given for also liking the other McCartney/Wonder song 'Ebony and Ivory'; Poor Sick Bastard.

 

I think that this is a very good idea, but that it should be part of a separate project and not part of the reissues series.

I would really like to see a 'McCartney in the 1980's' album as part of a series with a 'McCartney in the 70's' album, and a McCartney in the '90's/2000's' album.
They could take inspiration from Pavement's compilation 'Quarantine the Past', Blur's 'Midlife Crises', Guided By Voices 'Human Amusements At Hourly Rates' and R.E.M's 'Part Lies'.

I feel that they would really help improve the reputation of Paul's post-Beatle work, and if they took inspiration from the albums above, they would not need to include all of hits, and instead could replace songs like Ebony and Ivory and Spies Like Us, with lesser-known gems.

 

Those are great choices. From the titles you listed, these are some I like. Perhaps "I'm Carrying London Town" is the best.

6. Too Many People Ram - 5/71
12. Some People Never Know Wild Life - 12/71
16. I’m Carrying London Town - 3/78
19. I’ve Had Enough London Town - 3/78
5. The Lovers That Never Were Off The Ground – 2/93
8. C’mon People Paul Is Live – 11/93
11. Young Boy Flaming Pie – 5/97
14. Souvenir Flaming Pie – 5/97
16. Beautiful Night Flaming Pie – 5/97
9. Something Back In The US – 11/02
16. Only Mama Knows Amoeba’s Secret – 6/07
20. My Valentine Kisses On The Bottom – 2/12

 

Pretty productive for a pothead.

 

Some People Never Know Wild Life sounds quite wistful!

My Valentine Kisses On The Bottom was already recorded by Madonna in 1985!

Ditto The Lovers That Never Were Off The Ground!

Sorry, too much time on my hands today!

 

Boy, you've got to Carry That Weight a long time!

 

True, that. Now I really have to hope that "Ode to a Koala Bear" shows up on that, so that I have something new to discuss. Or something old. Or just something. Fortunately we have plenty of other people here who provide additional viewpoints and food for thought. We never seem to run out of things to say or angles to explore -- a nice development.

 

From the guilty pleasure department, I'll add "Dress Me Up As a Robber" to the list. I've always loved that one, even though I felt like I shouldn't admit it. Not that it will happen, but I can see that as a really ripping fun song performed live, with the right arrangement (emphasizing the Spanish guitar and the danceability of its riffs), a groove not altogether unlike "Goodnight Tonight" (which itself is long overdue to be inserted into the setlist).

 

I fully agree; it would be great to see Paul add it and Goodnight Tonight to his set lists.

 

Dress Me up is the only listenable song on side 2. What's That You're Doing is on my rotation of music for me at the gym. I love the roll off the toms that Paul does and the harmonies at the end.

 

I think it's short a few CDs.

 

"It is in self-limitation that a master first shows himself."

 

I tried a thread a few years ago of a project that would be a continuation of Wingspan...
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threa...anges-the-very-best-of-paul-mccartney.190745/

 

Hopefully this [cleaned up] and more video footage comes with the Deluxe package but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm just happy POP is getting a deluxe release. Love Paul quipping, "it's Russless Hearty" (A UK Talk show host; for any non-Brits or those who may not know)

 

The 10" version

 

Size isn't everything. Er, so I've read. Hello, j.

 

After all, "Ebony and Ivory" was a big #1 hit. Besides, who makes the final decisions as to what a "dicey period" or "weak and/or grating stuff" is? An album is what it is, good or bad -- and should be re-released as it originally was. Although I fully admit that I'm not as keen on TOW today as I was upon its first release, TUG OF WAR was called "McCartney's Masterpiece" in Rolling Stone when it first came out in 1982 (and that praise was from a magazine that usually trashed his previous albums!).

I don't believe it's commonly felt that Paul's 'dicey period' began until after BROADSTREET flopped... say, between 1985 and 1989...

 

I think Paul has it in his head which albums he wishes to release first, and he's probably swayed with the mindset that TUG OF WAR got great reviews and is considered one of his finest albums (or was). PIPES OF PEACE goes along with TOW, even though POP is a weak followup in comparison. And regardless of one's own personal feelings on any given album, all of them are still deserving of being reissued when we're talking about representing an artist's entire catalogue.

That said, while I personally like WILD LIFE, I think that album is more of a risk to reissue than TOW is. Of course, like all Paul's other albums, WL too warrants re-releasing for the complete catalogue.