Perfect Producer and Artist Match...and Worst Producer Artist Match

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  1. fabtrick

    fabtrick New Member

    Location:
    NorCal
    Roy Thomas Baker and Be Bop Deluxe - Excellent

    Roy Thomas Baker and Cheap Trick - Not so excellent

    Mike Stone and Journey - Excellent

    Mike Stone and The Romantics - ill-conceived at best
     
  2. Nostaljack

    Nostaljack Resident R&B enthusiast

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    He produced their best-selling album, "Chicago 17." It might not have worked for you but it worked perfectly from a commercial standpoint.

    Ed
     
  3. blackmoreb35

    blackmoreb35 Forum Resident

    Jim Steinman produced Meat Loaf's huge comeback album Bat Out Of Hell II
     
  4. blackmoreb35

    blackmoreb35 Forum Resident

    unsung hero? Not too sure about that, he's all over the credits in the liner notes.
     
  5. Steve O

    Steve O Forum Resident

    The worst producer-artist match is when artists try to self-produce!
     
  6. hifidelitybill

    hifidelitybill Forum Resident

    Jeff Lynne- Dave Edmunds..2 ELO wanna be sounding albums.Dave has not been the same ever since...
     
  7. JJFlash

    JJFlash Forum Resident

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    NC
    Rick Ruben and Mick Jagger
     
  8. Yeah! Like Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys for example. :winkgrin:

    Seriously:

    Best that I know of: Gary Usher and The Byrds (actually Gary Usher and anyone)

    Worst that I know of: Lou Natkin/Mark Avnet and The Honeys
     
  9. Steve Jordan - Keith Richards:

    Who knew Keith could actually sing? Somehow Jordan made him sound a hell of a lot better vocally than on any Stones record.

    Steve Jordan - Patti Scialfa:

    Who knew Patti's mile-wide vibrato could be tamed? Steve figured out how.

    Bones Howe - Tom Waits:

    Can't think of a thing I'd change, production-wise, on the early Waits albums

    Haven't come up with any worsts yet.
     
  10. dave-gtr

    dave-gtr Forum Resident

    YES!
    Chris Thomas/Pete Townshend (EMPTY GLASS)
    Glyn Johns/The Who (WHO'S NEXT) although it's often written that Pete did a lot of the 'producing' based on the quality of the demos....
    Daniel Lanois/Bob Dylan (OH MERCY, TIME OUT OF MIND)

    NO!!!!!
    Bill Symczyck (sp?)/The Who (FACE DANCES)
    Don Was/Bob Dylan (UNDER THE RED SKY) Just listen to how good the alternate versions sound on TELL TALE SIGNS
    Phil Spector and anytime he PRODUCED!!!!!!!! (emphasis on his level of involvement propotional to lack of quality) after the 60's...
     
  11. signothetimes53

    signothetimes53 Senior Member

    Worst match:

    Bob Dylan producing himself.

    :sigh:
     
  12. Ben Sinise

    Ben Sinise Forum Reticent

    Location:
    Sydney
    George Martin - Matt Monro

    Monro was basically washed up after some early minor success with Decca and Fontana. Sir George signed him to his lowly Parlophone label after he sang on a Peter Sellers comedy album. With Martin helping to choose the right songs and arrangements, Monro made it to the top of the charts in the early sixties. George Martin definitely had a way with those Decca rejects! :D
     
  13. Nostaljack

    Nostaljack Resident R&B enthusiast

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    You're right. What was George Michael thinking? He started producing himself and couldn't buy a hit. Oh, the humanity...;)

    Ed
     
  14. wayneklein

    wayneklein Forum Fool Thread Starter

    Actually Bill Szymzyck's production on "Face Dances" reminds me a bit of Chris Thomas' on "All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes".
     
  15. wayneklein

    wayneklein Forum Fool Thread Starter

    Actually Bill Szymzyck's production on "Face Dances" reminds me a bit of Chris Thomas' on "All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes". Given that he produced The James Gang and a number of Joe Walsh's better solo albums you'd think it would be a decent if not great fit.
     
  16. Squealy

    Squealy Forum Hall Of Fame

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    Though, as Dave Marsh points out in his book on the Who, Glyn Johns produced It's Hard and that doesn't sound much different than Face Dances.

    Pete was quoted once saying the relatively lacklustre sound of Face Dances was entirely the band's fault and not the producer's.
     
  17. Buckyball

    Buckyball Forum Resident

    I think Mickie Most and Donovan made a great pair. Donovan might disagree.

    Buck
     
  18. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    The Cramps/Alex Chilton were a great pairing.
     
  19. wayneklein

    wayneklein Forum Fool Thread Starter

    Perfect pairing:
    Badfinger-Todd Rundgren (and George Harrison), Geoff Emerick
    CCR-John Fogerty (of course)
    The Doors-Paul Rothschild and Bruce Botnick
    The Doobie Brothers-Ted Templeton
    Peter Gabriel-Daniel Lanosis, Steve Lilywhite, Bob Erzin
    Talking Heads-Brian Eno

    Worst:
    PG-Robert Fripp
     
  20. bRETT

    bRETT Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston MA
    Best:
    Nick Lowe/Elvis Costello
    Gus Dudgeon/Elton John
    Allen Toussaint/ The Meters
    Felix Pappalardi/ Cream
    Mitch Easter & Don Dixon/R.E.M.

    Worst:
    Simon Climie/Eric Clapton
    John Cale/Squeeze
    Mark Hudson/Aerosmith
    Don Was/virtually anybody
     
  21. bhazen

    bhazen ANNOYING BEATLES FAN

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    That Eighties L.A. guy who produced ELP's In The Hot Seat (somebody Olson?)
     
  22. Keith Olson? He's more of a 70's producer than 80's. (He did Buckingham Nicks). He's a respected name, but no one could have pulled a great album out of ELP at that point, especially while Keith could hardly play and Greg Lake couldn't sing anymore.

    Ten years later, Marc Bonilla did get a great album out of Keith Emerson. Amazing.
     
  23. Glenn Christense

    Glenn Christense Foremost Beatles expert... on my block

    Perfect:
    The Beatles and George Martin
    The Moody Blues and Tony Clarke.
    Jimi Hendrix and Chas Chandler
    Radiohead and Nigel Godrich
    The Stones and Andrew Loog Oldham (Whatever Andrew did or didn't know about producing music, the records are great...so)

    Among my least favorite combinations would be George Harrison, when produced by George Harrison and Ray Cooper.
    I'm also not nuts about Terry Reid being produced by Mickie Most. The records sound awful, which is ultimately the producers responsibility. The records sound like I am listening to them through a telephone.
     
  24. mando_dan

    mando_dan Forum Resident

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    Many many good producers, but to my ears the really bad one is Lynne. He seems to favor 1000s of shiny sounding guitars all playing the exact same thing as the backdrop for a simple drum pattern, vocals, and maybe some keys. Bass? M.I.A. Ugly.
     
  25. mando_dan

    mando_dan Forum Resident

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    Agree to some extent. Chandler produced two great albums but the studio experimentation that Hendrix craved seemed to chafe him. No one would argue that Electric Ladyland isn't a masterwork! It's interesting to compare the Chandler produced Watchtower (Purple box) to the released version. Chas's version just doesn't have impact- glad he left when he did.
     
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