Pfansteihl Record cleaning fluid contains lead?

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  1. radicaldreamers

    radicaldreamers Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Boston
    Just realized the Pfansteihl record cleaning spray I have been using for the past couple years contains lead. Even trace amounts can be harmful to your health, right? And as it is a spray, I have definitely inhaled some amount of it over the years. Does anyone know how much lead it contains? I have been very happy with its performance but health is obviously more important. Can anyone recommend a safe alternative?
     
  2. radicaldreamers

    radicaldreamers Member Thread Starter

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    Boston
    Just looking for something that will work well. Anti-static if possible, one of the best aspects of the Pfansteihl. Any recommendations?
     
  3. resonated

    resonated Forum Resident

    Oof. Hope your health wasn't impacted by this cost-cutting measure. Do you need a cleaning fluid that dispenses as a spray? If not, there are dozens of high-quality, alcohol-free fluids available. I recommend l'art du son.
     
  4. radicaldreamers

    radicaldreamers Member Thread Starter

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    I... hope not. Haven't noticed anything, and luckily don't have any kids in the house. I don't need a spray. I used to use Discwasher. Should I go back to that? L'art du Son looks great, but pricey. Worth it?
     
  5. The FRiNgE

    The FRiNgE Forum Resident

    How does lead end up in record cleaning fluid?
    As a young man, I worked at a body shop and exposed to lacquer paint atomized in the air, containing lead. I'm still around to report that :laugh:
    You're probably fine, as a healthy person can handle trace amounts and not be "poisoned" by it.
     
  6. resonated

    resonated Forum Resident

    For the amount that you get, it's a great value. I clean several LPs each day and after more than 4 months, I've used less than a quarter of the concentrate.
     
  7. Old Audiophool

    Old Audiophool Forum Resident

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    Just to let you guys know: lead accumulates in the body and remains there, it doesn't dissipate, so the more lead you absorb, the worse it can get.
     
  8. F1nut

    F1nut Forum Resident

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    Nope.
     
  9. Jack Flannery

    Jack Flannery Forum Resident

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    How much lead? You are in contact with lead every day, including the water you drink and the air you breathe. You used to breathe a lot more when TEPb was a gasoline additive. Dead yet?
     
  10. nolazep

    nolazep Burrito Enthusiast

    Lead is a deal breaker.
     
  11. sublemon

    sublemon Forum Resident

    i doubt it's gonna hurt you. but i also doubt it is very good for cleaning lps.
     
  12. Claude Benshaul

    Claude Benshaul Forum Resident

    What's could be the purpose of adding lead in a cleaning record solution?
     
  13. Jack Flannery

    Jack Flannery Forum Resident

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    Is there a chemical analysis?
     
  14. radicaldreamers

    radicaldreamers Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Boston
    I couldn't find one, but the outside package clearly states that there are harmful chemicals, including lead, known to the state of California to cause cancer, or something like that. Don't have it in front of me but that's the gist. Any amount of lead is too much for me, especially in a spray. Keep recommendations coming! What about Last record cleaner? My local shop recommends Last products and I've been happy with their stylus cleaner. Anybody tried it?
     
  15. radicaldreamers

    radicaldreamers Member Thread Starter

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    Could have to do with the anti-static properties? It is an anti-static cleaner and it works great for that. If not that I'm not sure what purpose it could serve. Perhaps just some kind of byproduct or general additive? Why was it gasoline for so long?
     
  16. Claude Benshaul

    Claude Benshaul Forum Resident

    Lead was added to gasoline to cushion the impact on the head cylinder's valves and retard detonation. I don't think either can apply to cleaning records.
     
  17. basie-fan

    basie-fan Forum Resident

    The OP should check out these recommendations from the WHO:
    Lead poisoning and health

    Trace amounts of lead once thought to be safe have damaging and lasting effects on children's intelligence and behaviour. Lead persists in the environment so even if the OP doesn't have children he could be leaving an invisible toxic legacy for future owners of the home and their children.
     
  18. nosliw

    nosliw Delivering parcels throughout Teyvat! Meow~!

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    If true, then using the Pfansteihl record cleaning spray is quite dangerous. :eek:

    There's a certain YouTuber who wholeheartedly recommend using it... Uh oh.
     
  19. F1nut

    F1nut Forum Resident

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    The WHO is more toxic than trace amounts of lead.
     
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  20. Tedster

    Tedster Forum Resident

    These are the same people who would give you a DUI if you drove past a liquor store three days ago, if they could.

    There is no way they are using lead in the product itself. Record cleaning fluid is (probably) mostly water. There may be a molecule or two in there. Do you drink water? The hysteria and neurosis of people today is off the chart because of labeling like this.

    There is a MSDS available by law for this product. Look it up and post what it is.
     
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  21. MrRom92

    MrRom92 Forum Supermodel

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    Let me guess... zeastlife
     
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  22. PhilBiker

    PhilBiker sh.tv member number 666

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    Don't worry about it; that's a California Prop 65 warning. California Proposition 65 (1986) - Wikipedia

    [​IMG]
     
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