POLL: Sgt Pepper's - 1967 or 2017 Stereo Version?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Diego Lucas, May 26, 2017.

  1. raveoned

    raveoned Forum Resident

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    I've spun the originals (mono and stereo, 1967 pressings), the 1987 CD (original issue), 2009 stereo CD, 2009 mono CD, 2012 stereo vinyl, 2014 mono vinyl.

    Listening to this remixed version, I'm absolutely thrilled with it. I love the spaciousness of it, how it widens the sonic picture The Beatles created with the original mono mix of the album. I've played it tons since release day on May 26, and it's starting to replace Rubber Soul as my favorite Beatles LP.
     
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  2. StevenC

    StevenC Forum Resident

    Not according to George Martin
     
  3. Rne

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    The 2077 stereo remix is going to be definitely better than the previous ones.
     
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  4. raveoned

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    It will be a step up from the 2067 remix, which includes the life-size holograms of The Beatles performing the album.
     
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  5. Rne

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    And then we will know for sure who's singing those "aaaaaahs" in "A Day in the Life"!
     
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  6. Price.pittsburgh

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    The Beatles Bible makes reference to their presence on various tracks of the stereo mix.
    I've read also they were "minimally" involved.
    I never said they mixed it or were on top of it as with the mono but saying they just were never there isn't true.
     
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  7. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    The key is, what type of involvement was it, and how many songs was it? You can sit in the back of the mixing room and smoke. That would make you present, but not involved.
     
  8. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    Keenly involved in the stereo and mono mix of A Day In The Life.

    From Mark Lewisohn's "The Complete Beatles Chronicles", page 247, regarding A Day In The Life: "The Beatles were especially keen to sit in on the various mono and stereo mixes and edits of this song that followed..."
     
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  9. Bill Lettang

    Bill Lettang Well-Known Member

    If what you say is so, and I don't mean to be confrontational, please explain what Steve is referring to when he said the re-mix "was too squashed" and that the meters (of an analog copy of it) were stuck at plus 3 for over a minute.....
     
  10. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Apparently, he means the music was compressed. That does not necessarily mean music has to be brickwalled, though. I can show you a screenshot of a wave file, and, while it would look dynamic, it could be compressed. Also, I could show you a file that looks a little "brickwalled" but not appear to be compressed upon listening.

    Band compression has a different sound than a limiter.
     
  11. Price.pittsburgh

    Price.pittsburgh Forum Resident

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    We were certainly looking at it from different perspectives.
    It's unfortunate that stereo was still perceived as not that significant in 67.
    Only a year later that all changed.
     
  12. There was often a degree of conservatism on George Martin's part. I remember in the early 1980s, he was asked if the Beatles would be released on Compact Disc. His response was something like CDs were just a gimmick or a fad. Does someone have this interview?
     
  13. Bill Lettang

    Bill Lettang Well-Known Member

    thank you..........
     
  14. Bill Lettang

    Bill Lettang Well-Known Member

    well now, it seems, according to the book in the box, and Gila, post #7211, Beatles Sgt Pepper 50th ann. Contents, Sound Quality and Discussion that alternate bass parts (the book says two were recorded according to Gila) were used on Getting Better. After charting and comparing both the remix and stereo re-master from 2009, there can be no doubt there are little rhythmic and melodic differences in places. In fact when I first listened to the remix, my initial reaction on this tune was "I've been playing this song on my bass for years, how did I miss that?" Is this one of those famous Giles No-No's?......Not to me a big deal but it may for purists raise a revisionist flag. It's nothing like the 8 days a week f--kup outrow on The Beatles 1 Re-mix. If you weren't a bassist and Macca desciple you'd never notice, and who knows, maybe Giles rang up Paul and got an OK to go between them. It's common knowledge Paul purposely changed White Album mono and Stereo Mix parts and levels. (as he said, that way you'd have to buy both). My main point is, with more listenings, it's becoming a very different Sgt. Pepper....
     
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  15. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    Well now, you're assuming that all of what you allude to is common knowledge. It isn't I have no idea what you're talking about. Please slow down and explain. Thanks!
     
  16. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Forum Resident

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    I don't do remixes. :shake:
     
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  17. Bill Lettang

    Bill Lettang Well-Known Member

    yea, mustn't use "common knowledge" term...
     

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