Poll--The Weakest Link: Mott The Hoople MOTT, Round 5

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  1. LandHorses

    LandHorses I contain multitudes Thread Starter

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    "The Ballad of Mott The Hoople" broke up. One more to go today.

    Discussion questions (I screwed up making round two songs):

    1. Where do you rate/rank MOTT in the Mott The Hoople catalog?

    2. The kid next door heard you blaring MOTT, likes it, and asks you about similar artists and albums. What would you recommend to the kid?

    Still I feel, somehow, we let you down......................

    Ballad of Mott the Hoople (26th March 1972, Zürich) (Round 4)
    Drivin’ Sister (Round 3)
    Whizz Kid (Round 2)
    I’m a Cadillac / El Camino Dolo Roso (Round 2)
    I Wish I Was Your Mother (Round 1)
    Violence (Round 1)
     
  2. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

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    “Honaloochie Boogie”

    DQ1: Tied at the top with All the Young Dudes.
    DQ2: The obvious candidates—Bowie, T. Rex, Faces.
     
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  3. Marvin

    Marvin Senior Member

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    This is my favorite Mott album though the only other ones I know are Dudes and Hoople.
     
  4. scotti

    scotti Forum Resident

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    Just saw this thread...love the band, but I can't believe my two favorite songs from this record got voted off so quickly...

    Whiz Kid and I'm A Cadillac/El Camino Dolo Roso

    Oh well, I guess those songs don't sound as cool to some as they do to me. Voted Honaloochie Boogie off...
     
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  5. maui jim

    maui jim Forum Resident

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    Better than Dudes for me. Never have like Dudes sequencing and made a cdr fixing it for me. No such qualms for this lp
    You nailed it in DQ2, here kid try Ziggy, Electric Warrior and A Nod... life changing records
     
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  6. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

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    What is your Dudes re-sequencing, if you don’t mind saying?
     
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  7. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

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    Hymn For The Dudes.

    I like Brain Capers, All The Young Dudes and Mott The Hoople better than Mott.
     
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  8. JDeanB

    JDeanB Senior Member

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    Hymn to go.
    Mott was my first MTH album back in ‘73 and was my favorite for many years.
    But these days, it ranks behind Brian Capers and Dudes for me. I like Wildlife a lot, too.
    As for recommendations, They would be would be Ziggy, Aladdin Sane, The Slider, For Your Pleasure, and Transformer.
     
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  9. scotti

    scotti Forum Resident

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    I"ll take those first 6 albums with Brain Capers being my favorite and have a soft spot for Wildlife and it's Country flavor provided by Ralphs...
     
  10. maui jim

    maui jim Forum Resident

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    Would love to...
    One of the Boys-Love the telephone opening
    Momma
    ATYD with Bowie on the verses
    Sea Diver
    Jane
    Sucker
    Jerkin
    Soft
    Ready for Love
    Rest of bonus tracks
    Finishing with ATYD original
    Just works for me. Love this digital age
     
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  11. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

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    Will check that out and compare with the original. Thanks.
     
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  12. jimmydean

    jimmydean Senior Member

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    mott
    brain capers
    the hoople
    dudes
     
  13. Whizz Kid

    Whizz Kid Forum Resident

    Voted ‘Honaloochie’... again.

    ‘Mott’ is my favourite... followed by ‘Dudes’, then ‘Hoople’. I probably play expanded ‘Live’ more than any of them, tho’.

    I was a latecomer to the Island/Atlantic albums... I used to dismiss them as mostly a muddy mess... didn’t give them a chance.
    I’ve since come to appreciate them for what they are... part of the story... I get how ‘Brain Capers’ stands out above the rest.

    My recommendations for the kid next door... Ziggy-era Bowie, early Roxy Music, Cockney Rebel, and maybe early Queen.
     
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  14. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

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    Brian Capers is my favorite album by Mott The Hoople. I like the earlier stuff better than the more glam material.
     
  15. PhilBorder

    PhilBorder Senior Member

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    I think the 'Mental Train' box set is incredible, not just the scope and almost reckless (and occasionally, well, stupid) ambition of their first four albums (and some excellent outtakes). What kind of band careens onto stage with an instrumental Kinks cover, right turns into a splendid Doug Sahm Cover, right turns again with a Sony Bono cover, then shows Ian Hunters incipient songwriting chops were coalescing almost immediately, not to mention the ethereal and majestic Half Moon Bay... then a darkly serious second album... followed by a relatively calm and literate almost semi-acoustic 3rd (again, with mostly great songs, 'Wildlife 'is severely underrated in their canon) and a cover of Melanie's "Lay Down" just to keep everyone guessing, followed by an incendiary 'Brain Capers', all under the guise of an aesthetic that purported to be Dylan-Meets-The-Stones- but sounded more like Dylan meet the New York Dolls five years before the NY Dolls existed. All the while Ian getting better and better as a songwriter and singer. In the last 20 years I think he's outclassed, outwrote and outsang Dylan.

    So, if some kid liked' Mott" I'd advise him to backslide fearlessly through their catalog and then check out Ian's first couple solo albums, and his last four
     
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  16. boggs

    boggs Multichannel Machiavellian

    MOTT is the best for me. Followed by THE HOOPLE, then DUDES. It's not easy to recommend a group like MTH, but Bowie early favorites would suffice.
    HYMN is outta here.
     
  17. Glenn coates

    Glenn coates Forum Resident

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    They sound cool to me....I’m with you
     
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  18. Glenn coates

    Glenn coates Forum Resident

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    I think I know you
     
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  19. Safeway 1

    Safeway 1 "mad, bad, and dangerous to know"

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    By by Boogie again.
    Really Mott was 2 different bands. Dudes and after I would rate Mott their best. As far as the Atlantic stuff
    I would go with Brain Capers.
    As far as recommending similar sound I would say solo Ian, T-Rex and Bowie although Lou Reed, The Stones and Dylan
    wouldn't be too far off.
    A favorite deep cut from Capers:
     
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  20. LandHorses

    LandHorses I contain multitudes Thread Starter

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    2 hours left.

    I voted “Honaloochie Boogie”......so if ends up tied, my vote doesn’t count, and it moves on.
     
  21. arthurprecarious

    arthurprecarious Forum Resident

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    I also voted Honaloochie. Mott always my favourite too followed by Dudes. All good though. At my maddest I say Mott were the greatest band ever....
     
  22. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

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    @maui jim, while I agree with you that Mott is much better-sequenced than ATYD, and though I love the idea of opening Dudes with “One of the Boys,” I’m not happy about moving “Sea Diver” to the fourth spot as I consider it the ideal album closer. Long story short, I can’t find a satisfactory way to rearrange ATYD’s nine songs (leaving out the CD bonus tracks)—but I’m glad you found a reordering that worked for you. :)
     
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  23. LandHorses

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