Pre emphasis list?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by andyinstal, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. doors1991

    doors1991 Member

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    I read the whole thread and still haven't found the info i want.


    acdc Highway To Hell 32XD-319

    David bowie rca

    Deep Purple In Rock 32XD-898,Machine Head 32XD-564

    Genesis Foxtrot 32VD-1027,Selling England by the Pound 32VD-1029

    Guns N' Roses Appetite For Destruction 32XD-821

    King Crimson In The Court Of The Crimson King 32VD-1063, red 32VD-1086,discipline 32vd-1087

    Led Zeppelin 32XD-520,32XD-565,32XD-566,32XD-335,32XD-154

    Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells VDP-64

    Pink Floyd The Dark Side Of The Moon CDP 7 46001 2, 5th UK

    Thin Lizzy Live And Dangerous 28PD-547


    These have pre emphasis ?
     
  2. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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    None of the Bowie RCA's do.
    If they aren't on the list, we don't know.

    If you have these, we can help you find the software that would let you figure it out.

     
  3. hotsoup

    hotsoup Forum Resident

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    They read the whole thread and missed all the posts about CueRipper/CueTools and EAC? :confused:
     
  4. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Here you are... no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't know, don't know, no, no, no, no, no, don't know, don't know and no.
     
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  5. doors1991

    doors1991 Member

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    hotsoup didn't pay attention on that,only searching for those pressings.

    David,did you put one more "no" ?
    You don't know, red 32VD-1086,discipline 32vd-1087,Tubular Bells VDP-64, and The Dark Side Of The Moon CDP 7 46001 2,right ?
    Hope you guys understand me,my english is not very good.
     
  6. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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    Bottom line, is that if we know it has it, it is listed here. If it isn't listed here than it probably doesn't but you can always test it and find out for yourself and let us know.
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    :agree: You have it correct as I had an extra "no" in there. Also, Steve Martin is correct. This pre-emphasis list is kept up to date as far as I'm aware. Your English seems fine to me so far.:shrug:
     
  8. doors1991

    doors1991 Member

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    Portugal
    Ok,thank you very much Dave ;)
     
  9. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    B.C.
    :wave: You're welcome anytime and welcome aboard.
     
  10. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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    Bruce Cockburn - Stealing Fire - A&M/Gold Mountain CD 80012 - Made in Japan
     
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  11. Here's another CD with pre-emphasis:

    CBS Masterworks MK 35888 "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (composed by Richard Strauss, conducted by Zubin Mehta)

    Made in Japan, "Manufactured By CBS/Sony Records Inc." on plastic hub, matrix: 38DC-10 101
     
  12. WiWavelength

    WiWavelength Forum Resident

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    United States
    Any disc with an early 38DC matrix probably has pre-emphasis -- just like early 35DP series.

    AJ
     
  13. Y9771

    Y9771 time traveller

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    and one more entry, not unexpected:
    Leonard Bernstein - West Side Story OST
    european issue CDCBS 70006 (matrix 35DP-59 41A7 +++++)
    flagged only in subcode

    as usual, 35DP matrix won't let you down

    somewhy in the last updated list there's not even a single version of title, nobody has checked it yet? not popular enough? :winkgrin:
     
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  14. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    I got the same response for the 'Chess' soundtrack as well... :laugh:
     
  15. crooner

    crooner Tube Marantzed

    I can confirm the disc has pre-emphasis. I have the 35DP-59 Japan for Japan issue. Great sounding disc by the way. Very close to the original vinyl in tonality. Properly de-emphasized of course!
     
  16. WiWavelength

    WiWavelength Forum Resident

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    This arrived today, surprised it has not been posted previously, since it is numerically the first of the 38DC and DIDC series:

    Beethoven: Sym. No. 5; Schubert: Sym. No. 8 [CD 36711; 38DC-1; DIDC 1; CBS/Sony Japan for Europe; crude font matrix]

    38DC-1-1 158 crude font; no center hub stamp; pre-emphasis flags in subcode, not TOC; MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY, INC. IN JAPAN; Manufactured by CBS/Sony, Inc. in Japan; STEREO/DIGITAL RECORDING; no barcode; smooth sided jewel case

    This also should confirm that the original CBS/Sony Japan 38DC 1 crude font matrix is mastered with pre-emphasis. If there is a later Japan 38DC 1 neat font matrix, though, the mastering could be different. CUETools accurately matched this pressing just 6/46, so that would suggest the existence of other, more prevalent pressings.

    AJ
     
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  17. crooner

    crooner Tube Marantzed

    I have this also, Japan for Europe as well. But the font is not crude so it's a slightly later pressing. Still has pre-emphasis.
     
  18. WiWavelength

    WiWavelength Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Okay, so a different physical pressing exists. The mastering with pre-emphasis probably is the same. But both could be different, as we have seen different masterings between crude and neat font pressings on some 35DP and 35 8P series.

    To confirm similarity or difference, these are the CBS/Sony Japan for Europe 38DC-1-1 peak levels (right off the disc, before digital de-emphasis):

    Code:
     01   81.0
     02   77.2
     03  100.0
     04   85.9
     05   65.2
    AJ
     
  19. crooner

    crooner Tube Marantzed

    I checked the EAC extraction logfile for this title and the peak levels match yours, so the mastering is identical.
     
  20. WiWavelength

    WiWavelength Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Missing from the pre-emphasis list, here is a second recent arrival, another very early CBS/Sony Japan pressing, but this time from the pop/rock series.

    Weather Report:

    Night Passage [35DP 8; CBS/Sony Japan; gold face, crude font matrix; pre-emphasis]

    35DP-8-2 1A7 crude font; no center hub stamp; gold tinted 3/4 black face; pre-emphasis flags in subcode, not TOC; STEREO/DIGITAL MASTERING; Manufactured by CBS/Sony Inc. (Tokyo Japan); no barcode; smooth sided jewel case

    Does a silver stock 3/4 black face not exist for this album? I ordered a 35DP "Night Passage" from a Discogs seller, who made no mention of it being a 35DP gold face. Either serendipity smiled upon me or all 35DP "Night Passage" are gold.

    AJ
     
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  21. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Thanks. I remember in an old Weather Report thread about some people complaining about brightness. Wouldn't surprise if it carried over to early Euro's as well.
     
  22. WiWavelength

    WiWavelength Forum Resident

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    I feel like I am reporting the weather. Here is another 35DP Weather Report, this time self titled:

    Weather Report [35DP 29; CBS/Sony Japan; pre-emphasis]

    35DP-29 21C2 +++++ neat font; no center hub stamp; pre-emphasis flags in subcode, not TOC; STEREO/DIGITAL MASTERING; Manufactured by CBS/Sony; no barcode

    AJ
     
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  23. WiWavelength

    WiWavelength Forum Resident

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    As an addendum to this already well known listing...

    Santana - Abraxas - 35DP 58

    The "Abraxas" with neat font matrix 35DP-58 21A1 +++++ that I just ripped has pre-emphasis flags in TOC, rather surprising for a 35DP series, which almost all seem to have pre-emphasis flags only in subcode. The TOC flags may have been added to the +++++ pressing.

    AJ
     
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  24. E-Rock

    E-Rock I Got a Rock

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    Thought I'd chime in with an early DADC copy of Toto IV that I picked up this week. Info:

    CK 37728
    DIDP 50012
    MADE IN USA

    Plastic Hub: Made in USA - Digital Audio Disc Corp.
    Matrix: DIDP-50012 21A18

    Ripped with XLD version 20170729, CUE file shows "FLAGS PRE" for every track. Thus, this disc DOES have PE. Sounds like it, too. ;)

    For those who are curious, here is the Log file:
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    X Lossless Decoder version 20170729 (150.3)

    XLD extraction logfile from 2017-10-18 09:48:47 -0500

    Toto / Toto IV

    Used drive : Apple SuperDrive (revision 2.00)
    Media type : Pressed CD

    Ripper mode : XLD Secure Ripper
    Disable audio cache : OK for the drive with a cache less than 1375KiB
    Make use of C2 pointers : NO
    Read offset correction : 6
    Max retry count : 20
    Gap status : Analyzed, Appended

    TOC of the extracted CD
    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 00:00:00 | 05:33:00 | 0 | 24974
    2 | 05:33:00 | 03:47:00 | 24975 | 41999
    3 | 09:20:00 | 04:56:15 | 42000 | 64214
    4 | 14:16:15 | 03:18:65 | 64215 | 79129
    5 | 17:35:05 | 03:10:55 | 79130 | 93434
    6 | 20:45:60 | 03:51:70 | 93435 | 110829
    7 | 24:37:55 | 04:26:37 | 110830 | 130816
    8 | 29:04:17 | 03:58:38 | 130817 | 148704
    9 | 33:02:55 | 04:13:47 | 148705 | 167726
    10 | 37:16:27 | 05:01:48 | 167727 | 190349

    List of alternate offset correction values
    # | Absolute | Relative | Confidence
    ------------------------------------------
    1 | -120 | -126 | 400
    2 | -200 | -206 | 153
    3 | -165 | -171 | 93
    4 | -796 | -802 | 88
    5 | -784 | -790 | 62
    6 | -106 | -112 | 49
    7 | -149 | -155 | 46
    8 | -16 | -22 | 25
    9 | -47 | -53 | 21
    10 | 113 | 107 | 17
    11 | 48 | 42 | 16
    12 | -235 | -241 | 15
    13 | 121 | 115 | 10
    14 | 79 | 73 | 5
    15 | -252 | -258 | 4
    16 | -81 | -87 | 4
    17 | -748 | -754 | 3
    18 | -126 | -132 | 2
    19 | -864 | -870 | 2

    AccurateRip Summary (DiscID: 00100e18-007ef772-9609ea0a)
    Track 01 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 109/1267)
    Track 02 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 105/1267)
    Track 03 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 104/1262)
    Track 04 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 105/1260)
    Track 05 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 104/1263)
    Track 06 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 105/1266)
    Track 07 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 103/1263)
    Track 08 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 105/1263)
    Track 09 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 104/1264)
    Track 10 : OK (v1+v2, confidence 110/1275)
    ->All tracks accurately ripped.

    All Tracks
    Album gain : 0.76 dB
    Peak : 0.860992
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 01
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/01 Toto - Rosanna.wav
    Pre-gap length : 00:02:00

    Track gain : -0.15 dB
    Peak : 0.785889
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 112EFBEF
    CRC32 hash : 112EFBEF
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : EDCD51F3
    AccurateRip v1 signature : AC2188DA
    AccurateRip v2 signature : 39774411
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 57+52/1267)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 02
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/02 Toto - Make Believe.wav

    Track gain : 0.38 dB
    Peak : 0.766022
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 3F87D901
    CRC32 hash : 3F87D901
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : E0047E8E
    AccurateRip v1 signature : AA4C4AD7
    AccurateRip v2 signature : D699BDCE
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 54+51/1267)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 03
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/03 Toto - I Won't Hold You Back.wav

    Track gain : 0.35 dB
    Peak : 0.860992
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 0BC32868
    CRC32 hash : 0BC32868
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 5068A07F
    AccurateRip v1 signature : 26451128
    AccurateRip v2 signature : 844AE223
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 53+51/1262)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 04
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/04 Toto - Good For You.wav

    Track gain : 0.91 dB
    Peak : 0.666412
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 5D3DB909
    CRC32 hash : 5D3DB909
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : F801F983
    AccurateRip v1 signature : 148DDEF6
    AccurateRip v2 signature : C1183163
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 54+51/1260)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 05
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/05 Toto - It's A Feeling.wav

    Track gain : 5.03 dB
    Peak : 0.625305
    CRC32 hash (test run) : A1018519
    CRC32 hash : A1018519
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 56FF361E
    AccurateRip v1 signature : 4F8D5647
    AccurateRip v2 signature : 674EFF6D
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 53+51/1263)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 06
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/06 Toto - Afraid Of Love.wav
    Pre-gap length : 00:02:35

    Track gain : 0.43 dB
    Peak : 0.715942
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 7F2F875B
    CRC32 hash : 7F2F875B
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : D71B5CE3
    AccurateRip v1 signature : C953A1F8
    AccurateRip v2 signature : A8898D4B
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 55+50/1266)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 07
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/07 Toto - Lovers In The Night.wav

    Track gain : 0.16 dB
    Peak : 0.641174
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 7F0B0633
    CRC32 hash : 7F0B0633
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 38920528
    AccurateRip v1 signature : D967E769
    AccurateRip v2 signature : 8F696F3E
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 54+49/1263)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 08
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/08 Toto - We Made It.wav

    Track gain : 1.01 dB
    Peak : 0.720215
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 9C7D23B8
    CRC32 hash : 9C7D23B8
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : BE3FCA8F
    AccurateRip v1 signature : F1A15491
    AccurateRip v2 signature : BB1B9278
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 54+51/1263)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 09
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/09 Toto - Waiting For Your Love.wav

    Track gain : 3.81 dB
    Peak : 0.680298
    CRC32 hash (test run) : B1CEA64E
    CRC32 hash : B1CEA64E
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : EF649439
    AccurateRip v1 signature : 2F1919B5
    AccurateRip v2 signature : 38FECFD0
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 53+51/1264)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    Track 10
    Filename : /Volumes/G-DRIVE USB/XLD rips/Toto/Toto IV/10 Toto - Africa.wav

    Track gain : 4.20 dB
    Peak : 0.845306
    CRC32 hash (test run) : 0E2B192C
    CRC32 hash : 0E2B192C
    CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 35BD3487
    AccurateRip v1 signature : ECA7DD25
    AccurateRip v2 signature : 9D544592
    ->Accurately ripped (v1+v2, confidence 57+53/1275)
    Statistics
    Read error : 0
    Jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
    Retry sector count : 0
    Damaged sector count : 0

    No errors occurred

    End of status report
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2017
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  25. Y9771

    Y9771 time traveller

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    Not a new entry per se, but an update on a already present one

    Simon & Garfunkel - The Simon & Garfunkel Collection (CDCBS24005) (DIDP 13)
    pressing from late 80s - CDCBS-24005 81 A2 MASTERED BY DADC AUSTRIA

    flags present in TOC
     
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