I just got myself the first Japan 10-track Synchronicity, 38XB-2. It has preemphasis. (The 11-track 38XB-2 does not.)
Looking forward to that data for the thread - updated 26 Dec with some Pink Floyd: Al DiMeola - Electric Rendezvous - 35DP 30 Anthony Braxton - Six Compositions (Quartet) 1984 - Black Saint Anthony Braxton - Quartet (London) 1985 - 2CD, Leo CD LR 200/201 Beatles - Abbey Road - EMI CP35-3016 (Black Triangle) The Blue Nile - Hats (1989 US; Linn/A&M CD 5284) [PROMOTIONAL stamp on label] Billy Joel - 52nd St. - 35DP 1 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Glass Houses - 35DP 18 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Piano Man - CDCBS 80719 Japan for Europe with 35DP 109 in the matrix Black Sabbath (All) CLACD and NELCDs have it Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run - Columbia CK 33795 / 35DP 21 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town - CBS/Sony 32DP 351 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town - Japan CBS For Europe DIDP matrix) Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.4 - CBS/Sony 35DC 117 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.9 - CBS/Sony 35DC 114 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.2 - Columbia MK 42021 / 35DC 86 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.3 - Columbia MK 42022 / 35DC 87 Bruno Walter/New York Philharmonic Orchestra - Mahler: Symphony No.2 - 2CD, CBS/Sony 56DC131~132 Creative Sounds S/T Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery - 35DP 24 / Austria, epic 450083 2/ JET-500 11 Genesis - Genesis(S/T) WG Target and Vertigo 800 series CD's Jethro Tull - Under Wraps - Chrysalis 610 203 made in West-Germany (1984) Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (AVI CD) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (US Motown) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (Motown MCD 06059MD Japan for U.S. CD) Men At Work - Cargo - CK 38660 (U.S) and 35 8P-16 (both have PE) Michael Jackson - Off the Wall - Epic/Sony Records ESCA 5407 made in Japan Miles Davis - Agharta - 50DP 237~8 Miles Davis - Pangaea - 50DP 239~40 Miles Davis - the later 50DP 7xx series Miles Davis do not have PE Miles Davis - The Man With The Horn - 35DP 16 Miles Davis - Star People - 35DP 55 Miles Davis - Porgy and Bess - CBS/Sony 35DP 61 Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - Columbia CK 08163 / 35DP 62 does not have PE Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain - Columbia CK 08271 / 35DP 63 Miles Davis - Someday My Prince WIll Come - 35DP 64 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine - CBS/Sony 35DP 65 Miles Davis - Four and More - 35DP 66 Miles Davis - Miles in Tokyo - CBS/Sony 35DP 67 Miles Davis - Miles in Berlin - CBS/Sony 35DP 68 Miles Davis - E.S.P. - CBS/Sony 35DP 69 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way - CBS/Sony 35DP 70 does not have PE Miles Davis - Decoy - 35DP 170 does not have PE Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - WG CDV 2001 and Japan VJD-23001 New Order - Low Life - Factory Records import. I can't remember if it was French made or UK made. Norma Procter (contralto)/LSO/Jascha Horenstein -Mahler: Symphony 3 - 2CD, Unicorn-Kanchana UKCD 2006/7 Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Give my Regards to Broadstreet - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Tug of War - has pre-emphasis - My US-issued, Japan-made Columbia Tug of War CD does not have PE. But the Japanese black-triangle disc definitely does. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 35DP 4 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - CP35-3017 Pink Floyd - The Wall - 50DP 361~2 / CK2 and related masterings Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - 35DP 53 Police - Synchronicity - 38XB-2 (10 track) The 11-track 38XB-2 does not have PE Quarterflash - S/T - Japanese target pressing. Roger Waters - Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking - 35DP 149 Dutch EMI/Harvest (CDP 7 46029 2) / US Columbia/CBS (CK 39290) Santana - Abraxas - 35DP 58 She's Having a Baby - OST Toto - Turn Back - 35DP 5 Toto - IV - 35DP 12 Toto - Hydra - 35DP 42 Ultravox - Vienna / CCD 1296 (UK Chrysalis) Vangelis: Opera Sauvage (European CD, possibly the same one still in print now) Velvet Underground - VU Weather Report - 8:30 - 50DP 133~4 Feel free to quote this message and add to the list any new findings, that way. we'll have an up to date list
Added one below... Al DiMeola - Electric Rendezvous - 35DP 30 Anthony Braxton - Six Compositions (Quartet) 1984 - Black Saint Anthony Braxton - Quartet (London) 1985 - 2CD, Leo CD LR 200/201 Beatles - Abbey Road - EMI CP35-3016 (Black Triangle) The Blue Nile - Hats (1989 US; Linn/A&M CD 5284) [PROMOTIONAL stamp on label] Billy Joel - 52nd St. - 35DP 1 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Glass Houses - 35DP 18 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Piano Man - CDCBS 80719 Japan for Europe with 35DP 109 in the matrix Black Sabbath (All) CLACD and NELCDs have it Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run - Columbia CK 33795 / 35DP 21 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town - CBS/Sony 32DP 351 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town - Japan CBS For Europe DIDP matrix) Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.4 - CBS/Sony 35DC 117 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.9 - CBS/Sony 35DC 114 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.2 - Columbia MK 42021 / 35DC 86 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.3 - Columbia MK 42022 / 35DC 87 Bruno Walter/New York Philharmonic Orchestra - Mahler: Symphony No.2 - 2CD, CBS/Sony 56DC131~132 Creative Sounds S/T Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery - 35DP 24 / Austria, epic 450083 2/ JET-500 11 Genesis - Genesis(S/T) WG Target and Vertigo 800 series CD's Jethro Tull - Under Wraps - Chrysalis 610 203 made in West-Germany (1984) Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (AVI CD) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (US Motown) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (Motown MCD 06059MD Japan for U.S. CD) Men At Work - Cargo - CK 38660 (U.S) and 35 8P-16 (both have PE) Michael Jackson - Off the Wall - Epic/Sony Records ESCA 5407 made in Japan Miles Davis - Agharta - 50DP 237~8 Miles Davis - Pangaea - 50DP 239~40 Miles Davis - the later 50DP 7xx series Miles Davis do not have PE Miles Davis - The Man With The Horn - 35DP 16 Miles Davis - Star People - 35DP 55 Miles Davis - Porgy and Bess - CBS/Sony 35DP 61 Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - Columbia CK 08163 / 35DP 62 does not have PE Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain - Columbia CK 08271 / 35DP 63 Miles Davis - Someday My Prince WIll Come - 35DP 64 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine - CBS/Sony 35DP 65 Miles Davis - Four and More - 35DP 66 Miles Davis - Miles in Tokyo - CBS/Sony 35DP 67 Miles Davis - Miles in Berlin - CBS/Sony 35DP 68 Miles Davis - E.S.P. - CBS/Sony 35DP 69 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way - CBS/Sony 35DP 70 does not have PE Miles Davis - Decoy - 35DP 170 does not have PE Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - WG CDV 2001 and Japan VJD-23001 New Order - Low Life - Factory Records import. I can't remember if it was French made or UK made. Norma Procter (contralto)/LSO/Jascha Horenstein -Mahler: Symphony 3 - 2CD, Unicorn-Kanchana UKCD 2006/7 Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Give my Regards to Broadstreet - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Tug of War - has pre-emphasis - My US-issued, Japan-made Columbia Tug of War CD does not have PE. But the Japanese black-triangle disc definitely does. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 35DP 4 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - CP35-3017 Pink Floyd - The Wall - 50DP 361~2 / CK2 and related masterings Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - 35DP 53 Police - Synchronicity - 38XB-2 (10 track) The 11-track 38XB-2 does not have PE Quarterflash - S/T - Japanese target pressing. Roger Waters - Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking - 35DP 149 Dutch EMI/Harvest (CDP 7 46029 2) / US Columbia/CBS (CK 39290) Santana - Abraxas - 35DP 58 She's Having a Baby - OST Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Southern Accents - MCAD-5486 (JVC Japan-for-USA) Toto - Turn Back - 35DP 5 Toto - IV - 35DP 12 Toto - Hydra - 35DP 42 Ultravox - Vienna / CCD 1296 (UK Chrysalis) Vangelis: Opera Sauvage (European CD, possibly the same one still in print now) Velvet Underground - VU Weather Report - 8:30 - 50DP 133~4
Also Columbia 450088 2 (matrix: CDCBS-85529 41 MASTERED BY DADC AUSTRIA [+mastered & debossed bar codes]). This is a relatively recent pressing, too -- it has an IFPI stamper code, which implies 1996 or later.
Added one MJ: Al DiMeola - Electric Rendezvous - 35DP 30 Anthony Braxton - Six Compositions (Quartet) 1984 - Black Saint Anthony Braxton - Quartet (London) 1985 - 2CD, Leo CD LR 200/201 Beatles - Abbey Road - EMI CP35-3016 (Black Triangle) The Blue Nile - Hats (1989 US; Linn/A&M CD 5284) [PROMOTIONAL stamp on label] Billy Joel - 52nd St. - 35DP 1 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Glass Houses - 35DP 18 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Piano Man - CDCBS 80719 Japan for Europe with 35DP 109 in the matrix Black Sabbath (All) CLACD and NELCDs have it Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run - Columbia CK 33795 / 35DP 21 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town - CBS/Sony 32DP 351 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town - Japan CBS For Europe DIDP matrix) Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.4 - CBS/Sony 35DC 117 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.9 - CBS/Sony 35DC 114 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.2 - Columbia MK 42021 / 35DC 86 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.3 - Columbia MK 42022 / 35DC 87 Bruno Walter/New York Philharmonic Orchestra - Mahler: Symphony No.2 - 2CD, CBS/Sony 56DC131~132 Creative Sounds S/T Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery - 35DP 24 / Austria, epic 450083 2/ JET-500 11 Genesis - Genesis(S/T) WG Target and Vertigo 800 series CD's Jethro Tull - Under Wraps - Chrysalis 610 203 made in West-Germany (1984) Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (AVI CD) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (US Motown) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (Motown MCD 06059MD Japan for U.S. CD) Men At Work - Cargo - CK 38660 (U.S) and 35 8P-16 (both have PE) Michael Jackson - Off the Wall - Epic/Sony Records ESCA 5407 made in Japan Michael Jackson - Thriller - 1982 Epic/CBS CDEPC 85930 (DI8P-11); matrix: 35 8P-11 111A2 +++++ Miles Davis - Agharta - 50DP 237~8 Miles Davis - Pangaea - 50DP 239~40 Miles Davis - the later 50DP 7xx series Miles Davis do not have PE Miles Davis - The Man With The Horn - 35DP 16 Miles Davis - Star People - 35DP 55 Miles Davis - Porgy and Bess - CBS/Sony 35DP 61 Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - Columbia CK 08163 / 35DP 62 does not have PE Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain - Columbia CK 08271 / 35DP 63 Miles Davis - Someday My Prince WIll Come - 35DP 64 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine - CBS/Sony 35DP 65 Miles Davis - Four and More - 35DP 66 Miles Davis - Miles in Tokyo - CBS/Sony 35DP 67 Miles Davis - Miles in Berlin - CBS/Sony 35DP 68 Miles Davis - E.S.P. - CBS/Sony 35DP 69 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way - CBS/Sony 35DP 70 does not have PE Miles Davis - Decoy - 35DP 170 does not have PE Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - WG CDV 2001 and Japan VJD-23001 New Order - Low Life - Factory Records import. I can't remember if it was French made or UK made. Norma Procter (contralto)/LSO/Jascha Horenstein -Mahler: Symphony 3 - 2CD, Unicorn-Kanchana UKCD 2006/7 Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Give my Regards to Broadstreet - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Tug of War - has pre-emphasis - My US-issued, Japan-made Columbia Tug of War CD does not have PE. But the Japanese black-triangle disc definitely does. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 35DP 4 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - CP35-3017 Pink Floyd - The Wall - 50DP 361~2 / CK2 and related masterings Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - 35DP 53 Police - Synchronicity - 38XB-2 (10 track) The 11-track 38XB-2 does not have PE Quarterflash - S/T - Japanese target pressing. Roger Waters - Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking - 35DP 149 Dutch EMI/Harvest (CDP 7 46029 2) / US Columbia/CBS (CK 39290) Santana - Abraxas - 35DP 58 She's Having a Baby - OST Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Southern Accents - MCAD-5486 (JVC Japan-for-USA) Toto - Turn Back - 35DP 5 Toto - IV - 35DP 12 Toto - Hydra - 35DP 42 Ultravox - Vienna / CCD 1296 (UK Chrysalis) Vangelis: Opera Sauvage (European CD, possibly the same one still in print now) Velvet Underground - VU Weather Report - 8:30 - 50DP 133~4
Al DiMeola - Electric Rendezvous - 35DP 30 Anthony Braxton - Six Compositions (Quartet) 1984 - Black Saint Anthony Braxton - Quartet (London) 1985 - 2CD, Leo CD LR 200/201 Beatles - Abbey Road - EMI CP35-3016 (Black Triangle) The Blue Nile - Hats (1989 US; Linn/A&M CD 5284) [PROMOTIONAL stamp on label], (1989 European; Linn/Virgin LXHCD2) Billy Joel - 52nd St. - 35DP 1 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Glass Houses - 35DP 18 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Piano Man - CDCBS 80719 Japan for Europe with 35DP 109 in the matrix Black Sabbath (All) CLACD and NELCDs have it Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run - Columbia CK 33795 / 35DP 21 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town - CBS/Sony 32DP 351 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town - Japan CBS For Europe DIDP matrix) Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.4 - CBS/Sony 35DC 117 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.9 - CBS/Sony 35DC 114 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.2 - Columbia MK 42021 / 35DC 86 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.3 - Columbia MK 42022 / 35DC 87 Bruno Walter/New York Philharmonic Orchestra - Mahler: Symphony No.2 - 2CD, CBS/Sony 56DC131~132 Creative Sounds S/T Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery - 35DP 24 / Austria, epic 450083 2/ JET-500 11 Genesis - Genesis(S/T) WG Target and Vertigo 800 series CD's Jethro Tull - Under Wraps - Chrysalis 610 203 made in West-Germany (1984) Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (AVI CD) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (US Motown) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (Motown MCD 06059MD Japan for U.S. CD) Men At Work - Cargo - CK 38660 (U.S) and 35 8P-16 (both have PE) Michael Jackson - Off the Wall - Epic/Sony Records ESCA 5407 made in Japan Michael Jackson - Thriller - 1982 Epic/CBS CDEPC 85930 (DI8P-11); matrix: 35 8P-11 111A2 +++++ Miles Davis - Agharta - 50DP 237~8 Miles Davis - Pangaea - 50DP 239~40 Miles Davis - the later 50DP 7xx series Miles Davis do not have PE Miles Davis - The Man With The Horn - 35DP 16 Miles Davis - Star People - 35DP 55 Miles Davis - Porgy and Bess - CBS/Sony 35DP 61 Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - Columbia CK 08163 / 35DP 62 does not have PE Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain - Columbia CK 08271 / 35DP 63 Miles Davis - Someday My Prince WIll Come - 35DP 64 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine - CBS/Sony 35DP 65 Miles Davis - Four and More - 35DP 66 Miles Davis - Miles in Tokyo - CBS/Sony 35DP 67 Miles Davis - Miles in Berlin - CBS/Sony 35DP 68 Miles Davis - E.S.P. - CBS/Sony 35DP 69 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way - CBS/Sony 35DP 70 does not have PE Miles Davis - Decoy - 35DP 170 does not have PE Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - WG CDV 2001 and Japan VJD-23001 New Order - Low Life - Factory Records import. I can't remember if it was French made or UK made. Nick Lowe - Pinker And Prouder Than Previous (1988 Demon Records, UK; FIEND CD 99) Norma Procter (contralto)/LSO/Jascha Horenstein -Mahler: Symphony 3 - 2CD, Unicorn-Kanchana UKCD 2006/7 Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Give my Regards to Broadstreet - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Tug of War - has pre-emphasis - My US-issued, Japan-made Columbia Tug of War CD does not have PE. But the Japanese black-triangle disc definitely does. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 35DP 4 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - CP35-3017 Pink Floyd - The Wall - 50DP 361~2 / CK2 and related masterings Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - 35DP 53 Police - Synchronicity - 38XB-2 (10 track) The 11-track 38XB-2 does not have PE Quarterflash - S/T - Japanese target pressing. Roger Waters - Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking - 35DP 149 Dutch EMI/Harvest (CDP 7 46029 2) / US Columbia/CBS (CK 39290) Santana - Abraxas - 35DP 58 She's Having a Baby - OST T Bone Burnett - T Bone Burnett (1986 Dot/MCA Records MCAD-5809) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Southern Accents - MCAD-5486 (JVC Japan-for-USA) Toto - Turn Back - 35DP 5 Toto - IV - 35DP 12 Toto - Hydra - 35DP 42 Ultravox - Vienna / CCD 1296 (UK Chrysalis) Vangelis: Opera Sauvage (European CD, possibly the same one still in print now) Velvet Underground - VU Weather Report - 8:30 - 50DP 133~4
I have this one, and read somewhere on here that the pre-emphasis isn't flagged correctly - and isn't decoded on playback.
Added some more I own and can confirm. It goes without saying that just about all the early 35DPs have preemphasis, but I know there are a few that don't, so I won't assume anything... Al DiMeola - Electric Rendezvous - 35DP 30 Anthony Braxton - Six Compositions (Quartet) 1984 - Black Saint Anthony Braxton - Quartet (London) 1985 - 2CD, Leo CD LR 200/201 Barbra Streisand - Guilty - 35DP 7 Barbra Streisand's Greatest Hits Volume 2 - 35DP 161 Barbra Streisand - The Way We Were - CK 32801/DIDP-20056 Beatles - Abbey Road - EMI CP35-3016 (Black Triangle) The Blue Nile - Hats (1989 US; Linn/A&M CD 5284) [PROMOTIONAL stamp on label], (1989 European; Linn/Virgin LXHCD2) Billy Joel - 52nd St. - 35DP 1 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - The Stranger - 35DP 2 Billy Joel - Glass Houses - 35DP 18 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel - Songs In The Attic - 35DP 19 Billy Joel - The Nylon Curtain - 35DP 34 Billy Joel - Piano Man - CDCBS 80719 Japan for Europe with 35DP 109 in the matrix Black Sabbath (All) CLACD and NELCDs have it Boz Scaggs - Hits! - 35DP 11 Boz Scaggs - Silk Degrees - 35DP 20 Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run - Columbia CK 33795 / 35DP 21 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town - CBS/Sony 32DP 351 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town - Japan CBS For Europe DIDP matrix) Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.4 - CBS/Sony 35DC 117 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Bruckner: Symphony No.9 - CBS/Sony 35DC 114 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.2 - Columbia MK 42021 / 35DC 86 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra - Brahms: Symphony No.3 - Columbia MK 42022 / 35DC 87 Bruno Walter/New York Philharmonic Orchestra - Mahler: Symphony No.2 - 2CD, CBS/Sony 56DC131~132 Creative Sounds S/T Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery - 35DP 24 / Austria, epic 450083 2/ JET-500 11 Electric Light Orchestra - Secret Messages - 35DP 72 Genesis - Genesis(S/T) WG Target and Vertigo 800 series CD's Jethro Tull - Under Wraps - Chrysalis 610 203 made in West-Germany (1984) Journey - Escape - 35DP 6 Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (AVI CD) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (US Motown) Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down (Motown MCD 06059MD Japan for U.S. CD) Mark Knopfler - Cal - Vertigo 822 769-2 Men At Work - Business As Usual - 35·8P-15 Men At Work - Cargo - CK 38660 (U.S) and 35 8P-16 (both have PE) Michael Jackson - Off the Wall - Epic/Sony Records ESCA 5407 made in Japan Michael Jackson - Thriller - 1982 Epic/CBS CDEPC 85930 (DI8P-11); matrix: 35 8P-11 111A2 +++++ Miles Davis - Agharta - 50DP 237~8 Miles Davis - Pangaea - 50DP 239~40 Miles Davis - the later 50DP 7xx series Miles Davis do not have PE Miles Davis - The Man With The Horn - 35DP 16 Miles Davis - Star People - 35DP 55 Miles Davis - Porgy and Bess - CBS/Sony 35DP 61 Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - Columbia CK 08163 / 35DP 62 does not have PE Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain - Columbia CK 08271 / 35DP 63 Miles Davis - Someday My Prince WIll Come - 35DP 64 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine - CBS/Sony 35DP 65 Miles Davis - Four and More - 35DP 66 Miles Davis - Miles in Tokyo - CBS/Sony 35DP 67 Miles Davis - Miles in Berlin - CBS/Sony 35DP 68 Miles Davis - E.S.P. - CBS/Sony 35DP 69 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way - CBS/Sony 35DP 70 does not have PE Miles Davis - Decoy - 35DP 170 does not have PE Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - WG CDV 2001 and Japan VJD-23001 New Order - Low Life - Factory Records import. I can't remember if it was French made or UK made. Nick Lowe - Pinker And Prouder Than Previous (1988 Demon Records, UK; FIEND CD 99) Norma Procter (contralto)/LSO/Jascha Horenstein -Mahler: Symphony 3 - 2CD, Unicorn-Kanchana UKCD 2006/7 Paul McCartney - Pipes of Peace - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Give my Regards to Broadstreet - CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney - Tug of War - has pre-emphasis - My US-issued, Japan-made Columbia Tug of War CD does not have PE. But the Japanese black-triangle disc definitely does. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 35DP 4 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - CP35-3017 Pink Floyd - The Wall - 50DP 361~2 / CK2 and related masterings Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - 35DP 53 Police - Synchronicity - 38XB-2 (10 track) The 11-track 38XB-2 does not have PE Quarterflash - S/T - Japanese target pressing. REO Speedwagon - Hi Infidelity - 35·8P-4 Roger Waters - Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking - 35DP 149 Dutch EMI/Harvest (CDP 7 46029 2) / US Columbia/CBS (CK 39290) Santana - Abraxas - 35DP 58 She's Having a Baby - OST Simon And Garfunkel - The Simon And Garfunkel Collection - 35DP 13 and CDCBS 24005 T Bone Burnett - T Bone Burnett (1986 Dot/MCA Records MCAD-5809) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Southern Accents - MCAD-5486 (JVC Japan-for-USA) Toto - Turn Back - 35DP 5 Toto - IV - 35DP 12 Toto - Hydra - 35DP 42 Ultravox - Vienna / CCD 1296 (UK Chrysalis) Vangelis: Opera Sauvage (European CD, possibly the same one still in print now) Velvet Underground - VU Weather Report - 8:30 - 50DP 133~4
It's both the Japan made for UK (Facd 100) and Japan for Japan (33C38-7413) which share the same mastering and, of course, the dreaded pre-emphasis. I must break down and learn how to properly rip pre-emph disks to flac!
I don't claim to know anything about this subject, so if I am asking a stupid question bear with me. If you take a disc with preemphasis and turn it into a flac file and then burn a disc, does it sound better, the same or worse?
Worse -- unless you remember to set the preemphasis flag on the new CD when you burn it. This is not difficult to do with the right software (e.g. Toast), but it's obscure enough that most people would miss it. The flag on the CD does not affect the PCM music data, which has been pre-emphasized and will sound that way if you just rip it off the disc. Its up to the CD player to see the flag and filter the music with its own de-emphasis. So when you take the data and put it on a new disc, you have to set the flag -- otherwise it will sound trebley and bad.
How do you know if your CD player is using preemphasis? In other words, if I have a disc with PE will it sound bad on a newer disc player? Forgive me, I am trying to understand this.
Almost all CD players properly de-emphasize a disc flagged as pre-emphasized. The "problem" only occurs when ripping tracks. The flag gets dropped in that case.
if the pre-emph is not de-emphasized, the sound will be super bright and/or have major tape hiss.... most CD players have the "Redbook" standard for playing CDs, which includes the ability to read the PE flag and apply proper de-emphasis. ripping software will not recognize the flag. there are work-arounds, but they are not easy enough for me....if only dBpoweramp would just do it for me when I hit the "Rip" button!!!
Right, it's technically a Redbook requirement for any CD player to have proper pre-emphasis detection and de-emphasis ability, if it wants to be fully compliant. I would say 99% of CD and DVD players do it correctly. (Just a guess.) One way to tell is to rip the CD and compare that music with the actual CD is a player. If the rip sounds bright and the CD doesn't, then your player is behaving correctly.
My two CD players (Cambridge Audio and Denon) don't do de-emphasis, and I'm sure most of the newer players don't do it either. To play those CDs correctly I rip them to the computer and use the SoX software to de-emphasize them. I found it is the best sounding program to do this. Link to this software in post #118 of this thread (and many thanks to member Zilog Jones for providing it! )
Maybe this is a stupid question but how do I know if my digital player (OPPO BDP-83SE) decodes pre-emphasis properly?
play one of the CDs on the list and if it sounds jacked up (harsh highs, ridiculous tape hiss), then the Oppo isn't de-emphasizing..... pls post back here with your conclusion....i may be getting the SE and it darn well better have the proper Redbook necessary to recognize the pre-emph flag!!
This one was a surprise: John Oswald - Plunderphonic (Mystery Laboratory, no cat #) It's also only the second time I've found the DCP flag set on a commercially-pressed CD, though of course that makes perfect sense in context.
Found another one while ripping my collection. Big Audio Dynamite - "This Is Big Audio Dynamite" Columbia CK 40220 matrix:E1 1A CK40220 04
