Predicting the Movie Hits and Bombs of 2017

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Vidiot, Dec 3, 2016.

  1. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    No more WW2 movies good god.. a tired subject..
  2. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    Shouldn't the new Planet of the apes movie be guys in suits..?
    I mean come much more CGi apes will the do.
    Or Andy hop around like animal.. :rolleyes:
  3. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR! Thread Starter

    Hollywood, USA
    Rise of the Planet of the Apes - $481 million.
    Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - $710 million.
    War for the Planet of the Apes - not opened yet.

    I'd be very surprised if the new film makes less than $500M. As long as the films have a mass audience, they'll keep making them.
  4. harmonica98

    harmonica98 Forum Resident

    London, UK
    As a large format geek I will definitely see Dunkirk theatrically but precious little else from that list. However, as comic book adaptations don't do it for me I doubt I am the target audience. With that said, surely most of these franchises have run their course by now.
  5. balzac

    balzac Forum Resident

    I have mixed feelings about the "Apes" reboot series; as a big fan of the original (mostly the first, but with a soft spot for the whole original series of films), I've been surprised the reboot film series has been better than I would have thought (the Burton remake obviously set the bar pretty low of course).

    But while a straight remake of the original '68 film isn't particularly a good idea, something of that ilk would be nice for the new film series. Meaning, something that brings in that future-setting shock value of Heston discovering the apes and whatnot. While it's debatable how much the reboot series is following the "timeline" of the original, "Dawn" and "Rise" have very roughly covered the material from the *fourth* and *fifth* films in the original series, "Conquest..." and "Battle for....".

    There were actually hints/rumors at one point that the third film in the reboot series would continue this trend (essentially doing the five films in the original series in a different order, 4-5-1-2-3), and would be called simply "Planet of the Apes." While that would probably be confusing from a marketing standpoint and would result in people thinking the whole thing was being rebooted *again*, I liked the idea of the third reboot film coming back around to that timeframe in the story.

    However, it looks like perhaps "War..." will be filling in the gaps between the 5th and 1st film in the original series, and that could be an interesting story too. But visually and storytelling-wise, I'm not super enamored with a film set entirely in a forest and with most of the cast being CGI talking apes. The CGI in the last Apes film was as good as it gets, no question.
  6. Fastnbulbous

    Fastnbulbous Forum Resident

    Washington DC USA
    Yeah! Moar Star Wars!
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  7. MikaelaArsenault

    MikaelaArsenault Forum Resident

    New Hampshire
  8. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident

    This will be huge regardless of reviews.

  9. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Internationally? Sure. US? Not so sure.

    The last one didn't bomb in the US, of course, but it performed the worst of the 4 with $245m. The 3rd place "Transformers" is the original, with $319m - that's a pretty steep drop, and way off the biggest hit of the bunch, which passed $400m.

    However, "Age of Extinction" did HUGE business internationally - more than $1 billion total!

    It'll be interesting to see if the franchise continues to slide in the US while it maintains or grows overseas...
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  10. forthlin

    forthlin Forum Resident

    Please see the same audience that thought Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and American Idol were so great once per week, they could watch several episodes of it (sometimes two hour versions) multiple time per week. I know that's TV vs. Movies, but same paradigm.
  11. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR! Thread Starter

    Hollywood, USA
    What's really troubling is that Paramount has reportedly created a "writers room" solely to develop Transformers as a franchise: doing at least one film a year in addition to whatever Michael Bay does. So there's going to be "side stories" similar to Star Wars: Rogue One, featuring other characters and other toys/robots as an ongoing story. At some point, when does the audience say, "I've had enough of this ****?"
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  12. pdenny

    pdenny Blow up your TV

    Well I know I've said it :agree:
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  13. Ghostworld

    Ghostworld Forum Resident

    Agreed. I wouldn't pay to see most of those. If I had to pick one, Star Wars. Guardian of the Galaxy 2 should make a gazillion, though.

    Can someone make in 1968 again and take the train set away from the children?

    My prediction is that within two years, not one American made movie with win an Academy Award because of our obsession with comic books and superheroes. The 2020 Oscars is going to look like the BAFTAs.
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2016
  14. Deesky

    Deesky Forum Resident

    From your grammar, you must be a screenwriter! :D :D
  15. mpayan

    mpayan Forum Resident

    Another year and another reason I go with non american made films. Hollywood should be renamed CandyStore. I get a cavity in my brain just looking at some of those titles.
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  16. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life Forum Resident

    Captiva Island, FL
    While I love mindless entertainment as much as the next person, I still long for a movie like "On Golden Pond" or "Fried Green Tomatoes", a great spaghetti western like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" (Clint's son should reprise the role, hell he looks just like Clint).

    I miss great storytelling in movies.
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  17. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    I guess we'll see!

    I hadn't heard about "Transformers" spinoffs. I think those will be a harder sell than "Star Wars" spinoffs because Transformers has a much less "rich" universe - at least to the general population. Maybe there's a lot of intricacy to the Transformers universe but most people will just know the basics, so I think it's harder to generate interest in spinoffs...
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  18. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    That makes one of us! While I love great storytelling too, I think both those movies are pretty awful - sentimental, contrived and mawkish... :hide:
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  19. Claus

    Claus Restaurant Critic

    ditto.... don't like this Mainstream stuff.
  20. keef00

    keef00 Forum Resident

    I will definitely see the new Kingsman; the original was enormously entertaining and a refreshing take on a tired genre. Will probably give Pirates a chance, and let my kids drag me to Star Wars and Beauty and the Beast. The trailer for Nolan's Dunkirk is interesting, so I may spring for that as well. As far as I'm concerned, Vidiot's phrase "more CG monkeys" pretty much applies to all the rest of that list. :D
  21. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident

    Well, the average world wide gross of the four released so far is $943.46 million!!! there's plenty of room for this franchise to slide before they stop making these movies, I don't see that happening for a long while.
  22. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Probably not. I was surprised to see how big the 4th one was overseas - it was seen as a disappointment here, but I guess them foreigners love them some fightin' robots! :D
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  23. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident

    It's the week for 2017 trailers - here come the apes.

  24. Deuce66

    Deuce66 Forum Resident

    Here comes Spidey - AGAIN.....

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  25. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    Predator vs Planet of The Apes..:D
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