Prince 1999 on HD tracks

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by love4another, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. love4another

    love4another Well-Known Member

    This seems too good to be true. One of my fav albums ever and now its in 24/192?

    How can this be when Prince has the master tapes in his vault?
     
  2. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Forum Resident

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    Some rumours Prince regained the copyright to pre-Rain albums.

    Or it's an upscale.
     
  3. davidbix

    davidbix Active Member

    Has HDTracks sold any up-sampled albums with a 24/192 option before?
     
  4. love4another

    love4another Well-Known Member

    That would be a joke. Receivers can upscale(such as new Yamaha 3020).

    If this is not remastered there would be no point.
     
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  5. BlueGangsta

    BlueGangsta Active Member

    I would guess that this is the same master use for the 180g vinyls. I've only listened to the previews, but it sure sounds like it.
     
  6. Manly Moose

    Manly Moose Active Member

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    Is that a good thing? I remember hearing that Prince had the albums he owned remastered but Im not sure but it is true that he has regained the rights to those albums, at least as far as I know. Has anyone bought it? Is the mastering good??
     
  7. Preston

    Preston Well-Known Member

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    I think the 180g vinyl sounds pretty good, if bright (which seems to be a decision made during the recording). Someone took my original vinyl, so I only have the CD to compare it to and the vinyl is better than the CD (IMHO).
     
  8. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Forum Resident

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    What was the source for the reissue vinyl? Either they used the original stampers or Prince gave access to the masters and that would be newsworthy.
     
  9. Preston

    Preston Well-Known Member

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    I bought it at Music Direct and here is a quote from their page on this LP (no wonder it sounds so good!):
    Mastered from the Original Tapes: Lacquers Cut by Bernie Grundman at Bernie Grundman Mastering
    Pressed at RTI and Features Complete Reproduction of Original Packaging: An Audiophile Spectacular
     
  10. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Forum Resident

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    WB sent BG a 2nd gen tape Prince gave them 30 years ago?
     
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  11. Manly Moose

    Manly Moose Active Member

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    Any confirmation that the HDtracks uses the Vinyl mastering, gonna buy it anyway though, the samples sound much better than the regular CD to me. Anyone think buying the 192/24 is worth the extra money charged?
     
  12. 007james

    007james Active Member

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    I just purchased this earlier this morning from HDTracks
    foobar2000 1.2.3 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2013-03-27 14:09:28
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Analyzed: Prince / 1999
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR13 -1.39 dB -16.87 dB 6:16 01-1999
    DR11 -3.03 dB -17.15 dB 4:59 02-Little Red Corvette
    DR12 -2.58 dB -18.00 dB 3:59 03-Delirious
    DR13 -0.38 dB -15.79 dB 7:19 04-Let's Pretend We're Married
    DR14 0.00 dB -16.12 dB 8:18 05-D.M.S.R.
    DR13 -1.26 dB -18.10 dB 9:25 06-Automatic
    DR13 -1.29 dB -18.61 dB 4:01 07-Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)
    DR15 -0.65 dB -19.71 dB 5:07 08-Free
    DR16 0.00 dB -18.98 dB 8:16 09-Lady Cab Driver
    DR15 -4.55 dB -20.84 dB 5:56 10-All The Critics Love U In New York
    DR15 -2.91 dB -22.53 dB 6:37 11-International Lover
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Number of tracks: 11
    Official DR value: DR14
    Samplerate: 192000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 9216 kbps
    Codec: PCM
     
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  13. And how does it sound?
     
  14. Bender Rodriguez

    Bender Rodriguez Forum Resident

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    Sarcasm alert:

    You mean you can't tell from those numbers?
     
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  15. art

    art Well-Known Member

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    who cares? Tell us what it sounds like.
     
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  16. wolfram

    wolfram Disco Infiltrator

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    Gee, give the guy a break. Maybe he didn't have the time yet to give it a proper listen. At least now we know it's not compressed in comparison to the old CD.
     
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  17. BlueGangsta

    BlueGangsta Active Member

    Most people who have heard them agree with my theory that it's the 180g vinyls master. So the source is most likely WB's copy from Prince's original.

    If this is the case, hopefully we'll get Dirty Mind, Controversy and Purple Rain soon.
     
  18. Preston

    Preston Well-Known Member

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    The 180g vinyl sounds excellent, very clean and dynamic, with great bass (if a bit bright, as I alluded to above). Would LOVE to hear Prince's original, if the LP was NOT in fact cut from the original analog tapes!
     
  19. bferr1

    bferr1 Forum Resident

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    To quote Michael Stipe from 1985 when Rolling Stone magazine asked what the new R.E.M. album sounded like: "Two oranges being nailed together."
     
  20. bferr1

    bferr1 Forum Resident

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    ^ I apologize in advance for the non-sequitur, but it's the first thing I always think of now when someone asks "What does it sound like?"
     
  21. groovelocked

    groovelocked Well-Known Member

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    A prince.org member reported [bottom of page] emailing Bernie Grundman Studios in 2011 about the vinyl remasters and received this reply:
    "Yes those titles were remastered at our studio by Bernie. We received the original tapes and remastered them, using the original first pressings as references.
    We did the work back in January of this year."

    From SoundStageDirect: "After more than two decades of being out of print, 1999 is finally back on vinyl--and how. Mastered from the original tapes, with lacquers cut by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, and pressed at RTI on 180g double vinyl, this is the very best version you'll ever hope to hear."

    I also remember reading Grundman was did this specifically for the vinyl releases. How would that include later hi-rez releases?
     
  22. Ulli

    Ulli Active Member

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    I care. Thanks a lot for that information, 007james!
     
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  23. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

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    I don't really like downloads, but I think I am going to have to get this one and burn it to a DVD. It's about time we get a digital remaster of Prince, and from the comments here, it appears that we got a good one.

    It's a shame that a remaster of Purple Rain is unlikely since Prince doesn't have the rights to it.
     
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  24. Preston

    Preston Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, hotrodjunkie. It's nice to know that my ears didn't let me down! Might have to play a few tracks off that tonight.
     
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  25. groovelocked

    groovelocked Well-Known Member

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    If this hi-rez IS from Bernie's 2011 redo, they should make Dirty Mind available as well, the improvement on that one is by far the best of the bunch.
     

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