Question for Bill Hicks fans

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  1. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    I recently acquired the "Bill Hicks Live" DVD, and was looking for material that Denis Leary had stolen and used for "No Cure For Cancer", but there wasn't much. Hicks talked about Jim Fixx and the suicide of heavy metal fans, but these weren't the "word for word" bits of stolen material I have heard about.

    My question is where is this material available? From some of the CDs?
     
  2. Indy500

    Indy500 Forum Resident

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    It is one his first CD Dangerous (1990).
     
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  3. Pete Sorbi

    Pete Sorbi Well-Known Member

    if you want to be amused - look up the Alex Jones is really Bill Hicks thing....
     
  4. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    Closer than the DVD, but still not the "word for word" example that I am looking for.
     
  5. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Leary didn't repeat it word for word.
     
  6. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Dude/man

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    He took the ideas and the patois and he amped them up. Bill Hicks was also very subtle. Leary not so much.
     
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  7. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Yeah, pretty much. The point I was trying to make though is that Leary clearly stole the jokes but changed the wording a little. I couldn't believe it when I found out what he did.
     
  8. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    I am going by this, which I found on Wikipedia:

    The feud is also mentioned in Cynthia True's biography American Scream: The Bill Hicks Story:

    Leary had, practically line for line, taken huge chunks of Bill's act and recorded it."
     
  9. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Wikipedia can be, and often is inaccurate. :)
     
  10. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    Yes, I know. But it is quoting a book, which isn't too difficult to do.
     
  11. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    The quote could be wrong, or the book itself could be wrong...
     
  12. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    Well, that is what I am trying to figure out.
     
  13. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Go buy a copy of the book and check.... As far as I know Leary didn't steal from Hicks word-for-word if that's what you're asking.
     
  14. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    Thanks for your help.
     
  15. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    So are there any other stolen bits besides

    Jim Fixx
    Heavy metal fans suicides

    ?
     
  16. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    I admit my memory is not the best but I could have sworn I heard Bill do the NyQuil bit.
     
  17. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    Was it on one of the CDs?
     
  18. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    Yes, and before you ask no I don't remember which one.
     
  19. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    I am guessing it from Dangerous which someone linked above. Thanks!
     
  20. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    This is a good excuse to just listen to a bunch of his albums, you know. :)
     
  21. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild Thread Starter

    Yeah, I think I am going to get his first 2 to start with.
     
  22. vamborules

    vamborules Forum Resident

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    There was some stuff about cigarettes. I think it was the one about smoking so much he goes through two lighters a day.
     
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  23. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    It's kind of amazing that Leary had the balls to do it so blatantly. I mean we're not talking about stealing Bill's act for a comedy club show that only 300 people would ever see. He did it for a major cable TV special and album/home video release...
     
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  24. dlokazip

    dlokazip Forum Transient

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    Bill's brother tells a story where they are driving in a car and Bill has his brother listen to No Cure For Cancer:

    Bill Hicks: What do you think of this?
    Steve Hicks: Kind of sounds like a sh*ttier version of you.
    Bill Hicks: Exactly! (throws the tape out the window)
     
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  25. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    That sounds like the kind of cute little story that someone would make up to have a good story to tell. I'm not saying it didn't happen or couldn't have happened, but it doesn't sound like something Bill would have done (buy a tape just to dramatically throw it out a moving car's window).

    It seems more likely that Bill would have decided not to buy the album (and thus not give his money to Leary) at all once he heard that Leary ripped him off.

    But, who knows? :shrug:
     
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